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Unread 01-07-2020, 10:02 AM   #1
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Trim plate for valve cannot sit flush because of stupidity

Well, I really blew it! I stupidly made the accent tile area go right through the area where the trim plate is. When I push on the plate it can sit flush on the bottom but the top half has two different levels of tile to contend with.
Any ideas on how to deal with other than a huge bead of Phenoseal or Silicone?
Or grinding out a groove in the quarter round tile? Or grinding out the side of the plate to fit over the quarter round? Ugh!
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Unread 01-07-2020, 11:01 AM   #2
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I would route a groove into the offending tiles to let the plate sit plumb. careful work with dremel
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Unread 01-07-2020, 11:16 AM   #3
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I was thinking the opposite; grind the trim plate to match the tile profile. Pull the gasket out before doing any grinding/shaping as it’ll still make a good seal when you put it back in place. My rationale is that if you mess it up, you can always get a new trim from Delta. If you mess up the tile, it’s a whole lot more to chip it out and replace it.
The trim is chrome plated brass, so cosmetics comes into play when doing the reshaping. Then again, similar applies to the other route if you go that direction.
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Unread 01-07-2020, 11:25 AM   #4
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How much does the tile stick out? Is there enough of the trim plate to cut away to make up for that?

If there is, I think either way will work.
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Unread 01-07-2020, 02:59 PM   #5
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The problem with grinding the trim plate is that in 10 years, when gold fixtures come back in style and the owner is updating the shower with a new gold fixtures, he's going to be cursing you to high heaven.

And if you grind the tile so that the trim piece sits flat, how sure can you be that the new gold trim piece in the theoretical 10 year future is going to be the exact same size?

Can you remove some of the tile without damaging the water proof layer?
If so, you could modify the decorative tile to drop down around the trim piece. That way what is behind the trim piece that needs to sit flat is more of that bubble decorative tile.
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Unread 01-07-2020, 03:40 PM   #6
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I think as thin as the metal is, I'd get one of those very thin tile blades for a Dremel and cut slits in the tile to accommodate the plate.

Then I'd tuck away a few pieces of trim in case I ever need to replace them.
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I wouldn't modify the trim plate, doing so will almost certainly cause the finish to peel in short time.

Get a Dremel and cut slots in the tile. Be very careful when you mark them.
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Unread 01-07-2020, 06:41 PM   #8
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I'm not so sure that cutting/notching the Q-round will solve the problem. Looks to me like the penny rounds are not inline with the field tiles, they are set back because they are thinner. So notching the Q-rounds will still leave a gap at the top where the penny rounds are.
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Add one vote for grinding the escutcheon plate.

If you make a mistake you can buy another plate.
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Unread 01-07-2020, 08:14 PM   #10
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Diamond hole saw the same diameter as the escutcheon plate. The plate can sit into the Groove you cut.
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A third option: tear the shower out and start over.
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Diamond hole saw the same diameter as the escutcheon plate. The plate can sit into the Groove you cut.
And if a diamond hole saw exactly the size of the edge on that escutcheon plate could be found, Mike, what do you suppose are the odds of actually centering the cut to match that trim location? Not gonna say it's not possible, mind ya, but...............
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Unread 01-07-2020, 09:40 PM   #13
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Any hole saw that big would have a small starter bit in the center, which the valve cartridge would interfere with.
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Unread 01-08-2020, 12:04 AM   #14
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Get a replacement escutcheon and see how well you can cut/grind. With the proper tools and patience you should be able to make it look professional. If that doesn’t work then proceed to modifying the tile.

Heck, once you get a replacement piece to mess with I’d still practice on the cheapest escutcheon plate you can get your hands on of similar gauge.
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Remove the drill bit.

What size is the plate?
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