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Unread 05-17-2015, 11:38 AM   #1
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Noble ValueSeal Waterproof Sheet Membrane

I was asked about ValueSeal over in this thread and don't want to derail the conversation over there.

Link to more information and data sheets

I've used this on a couple of projects now and I like it overall. It's obviously designed to compete with Kerdi and the like and is priced accordingly. Here's some random remarks about it:
  • It's stiffer than the others but it's still very thin. If you were to drop it on the floor it wouldn't just crumple up but would hold it's form somewhat.
  • Because of the above you can crease the corners and it will hold
  • It's translucent so you can see the coverage underneath it
  • Seams with thinset
  • It comes in 6 ft widths (and 3'). These are American widths- not that crazy metric system that's divisible by 10's.
  • Made in America

For me what I like about it most is the 6 ft width. In the photo below the membrane is continuous. It goes from the top of the back wall- across the shower pan- across the bath floor. A length of approximately 18 linear feet and has no seams or breaks.

(The water spot is from mudding the corbel under the bench)

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Another photo of a different project:

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Also, I like that they don't have a proprietary drain that they push on you. I like Ebbe drains and I can just use their (Noble's) drain flashing.

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If you're an NTCA member you can order a kit this year that has the 6' membrane, the drain flashing, a tube of sealant, some corners, and some other stuff. That's what I used in the first photo was that kit.

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My swag from Total Solutions Plus last year:

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The Noble "hat" (flashing) never looked so good (any excuse to get this photo out )

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I know other guys have used it. Post your photos and opinions of the stuff.
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Jim, I appreciate all the commentary about the advantages and your experience. I checked the Noble website and noticed the product can be used with latex modified thinset. If my memory serves Kerdi is used with un- or non-modified thinset. Not knowing the difference, is this an advantage or not...or a big deal? Thanks again.
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When I install Kerdi membranes I follow the Kerdi instructions and use unmodified. When I install Noble's membranes I follow their instructions and use modified. Both Noble and Schluter have been in the membrane business for decades and both systems will work.

I think the main thing is to research the products that you want to use from the companies you trust.
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That's a really old picture, Jim. I look much better now.
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Thanks for the information Jim, yes I like the larger size this way you can have less seams or none on a larger pan So you mean the overlap, thinset is that a 2" overlap like kerdi?
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yep--2" overlap
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