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Unread 10-10-2013, 04:16 PM   #1
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4 1/4" x 4 1/4" made in Japan

We removed some 4 1/4" x 4 1/4" tile on a shower and was looking for identifyers of where it was manufactured. It said made in Japan. It is a simple white color. I cannot remember any 4 1/4" tile that i have ever installed in my 38 years that was from Japan. John Bridge or Gobis might know of some? Just curios? John Cox
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Unread 10-10-2013, 04:42 PM   #2
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I have only 1 time, it was for something at the japan pavilion at Epcot in Orlando and were some hand painted tile. Other than that, i haven't either.
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I havent seen much here in states, but they make and set A LOT of tile in Japan. It's not uncommon for entire facades of 9 or 10 story apartment buildings to be tile.
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Color Tile used to sell it like late 70's early 80's. Before the big box(s), Color Tile was a market leader.
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I haven't knowingly set any Japanese 4-1/4. Several other countries, but not Japan.
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I've ripped some out at a resort out here that was built in the late 70's early 80's.
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For me Japanese porcelain = American Universal, they do a 4" but I don't know about a 4.25.
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Made in Japan

Thanks Dave! That is kinda what i thought. That was one of a bargain basement tile suppliers back in the days. Ironically enough the floor tile was Monarch Tile, because it had MT on the back of the tile. I remember the days of Aztec, American Olean, Dal TIle, Monarch, Holland and Holland, Wenzel, US Ceramics, Florida Tile, Incepa, 4 1/4 " Tiles with the white bisque body. I am sure i am missing some more. I always clean the backs off the tiles to reminisque when we do a demo job to figure out where it came from. Thanks for your input! I am sure i will see you at Total Solutions. Take Care J.C.
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Unread 10-11-2013, 12:34 PM   #9
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You can try; Cepac, American Universal, maybe even Wakei. Cepac I know has some 4" tiles, don't know their exact metric size though.
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man I remember when I started out in 1988-89 I saw some tile made
in Sri Lanka. I was like "where in the hell is that at?"
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I installed Miles of Wenzel tile. Got a chance to meet Chet Wenzel when I was younger. They had that Antigua pattern that is coming back these days.
Along with the same avocado color..
Another company was H & R Johnson. A English company. I think they would do something like make the bisque over there and glaze it here in NJ.
My first job 36 years ago was in a tile store. I remember some oldies like ATCO tile.
Plus all the Japanese mosaics like Big Jewel Rock And The Block Random patterns along with all of the one by ones they made.
I don't recall any Japanese 4 1/4 tile though. There where some larger fired 6x6 tiles on a mesh sheet for pools and stuff.
That era also included Miracle's MA-500 one of the first tile mastics. Loaded with VOC's was the cause of many a backsplash fire when ignited by a stove pilot light.
It was a time of change. Lots of new technology coming out like liquid latex additives epoxies and the first dry mix polymers.
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I finally got to size them and print pictures of the tile i was describing. The lug pattern is different from any other tile. The closest was American Olean with lugs on the corners. As you can see it it is a white bodied bisque tile, not a poreclain. There were a lot of porcelain tile from Japan back then also. The tile on the shower floor was a Monarch Tile because it had MT stamped on the back. It is fun figuring the origins of where tile came from. The sad part about this shower is it is in a high rise and the owner only wants to repair the damaged pan and floor. Oh well i guess i can look at it as future work. We know two courses down will be good but the rest of the shower is suspect. Thanks for your responses. John Cox
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Unread 10-12-2013, 05:50 PM   #13
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What Dave said: from Color Tile.

We used to call it "potato chip tile"
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