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Unread 01-30-2008, 07:50 PM   #16
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Hello John.
I'm guessing that you don't ever have to do leak tests in your area, is that right? That's the kind of test where the drain pipe is stopped up and the pan is filled with water right up to the overspill point on the curb and left overnight for the inspector to come in the morning.
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Unread 01-30-2008, 08:01 PM   #17
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I've seen alot of showers with rotten curbs. That's why I won't do one without pan corners. How do those fit in?

I'm all for something new and fast but it's gonna havta work.
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Unread 01-30-2008, 08:43 PM   #18
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Why would you say I do not test my pan before I pour the curb. you know It s because you do not understand, so you attack with your negative words . T Hulse. good luck and good day
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Unread 01-30-2008, 09:04 PM   #19
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Another method I have used is to use two rows of block (one row on each side of the liner) linking everything together with thin set. Then I measure up the front of the curb over the top and into the shower minus about 1" when I get to the last measure (into the shower so I'm not touching the pan reason being is I don't want durrock corners to puncture the pan or have to fight with the pan if it is not laying 100% on the floor).
So if it is 4.5" up the front then 4.5" across the top and say 4" into the pan (down the backside of the curb) I tally it up and come up with 13" total. I then cut a piece of durrock the length of the curb and score it with a durrock scorer and then snap them (all 3 pieces are still held together with the factory durrock mesh).
Then I just simply wrap my curb with it thin setting it on the block with say a 1/4" trowel. The drypack in the shower floor will provide enough preasure on the other side (the inside) to hold the durrock against the pan (I use a little thin set there as well).
This helps me get an entire shower done in one day (except grout) plus I just find it works even when I have other areas to tile.
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Unread 01-30-2008, 10:56 PM   #20
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Lots of panties getting in a bunch lately..
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Unread 01-30-2008, 11:52 PM   #21
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John, dude, lighten up a little. This isn't high tea with a bunch of sensitive old ladies, this is a construction forum with a bunch contractor types. You might want to be a little less delicate, nobody attacked you.
Some of the top guys in the country hang out here, so if you want to bring a new method that's not one approved by the TCA, then that's great, but be ready to explain some of the tough details.
That's the whole reason we're here, so we can learn from you & you can learn from us. So why don't you set me straight on how you do leak tests and tell Davy whether you use pan corners? I'm also curious how the wire is affixed on the outside. Does it also fit into the top slot or does it wrap over the whole curb?
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Unread 01-31-2008, 02:01 AM   #22
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What are "pan corners"? Never heard of them?
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Unread 01-31-2008, 02:58 AM   #23
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Pre-formed 3-dimensional corners made out of the same material as the liner. They're used at the corner where the top of the curb meets the wall. They protect the area left open when you have to cut the liner to get it to fold down over the curb. It's a common leak spot.
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Unread 01-31-2008, 07:26 AM   #24
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curb

What is not approved sir, you built your curb step by step just like you would any curb shower ,with masonry instead,which I think is better than any wood structure , Its just for large projects, sir .And I never had a leak in any of my installations, in over twenty years. They are used like a brick, would be used, that is all.
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Unread 01-31-2008, 07:54 AM   #25
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Hi John,
Hey, a picture is worth a thousand words, could you dig up some photos when you get a chance? I'd like to see what you're talking about so I'm sure I understand what you've described here.

Thanks a bunch.
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Unread 01-31-2008, 08:44 AM   #26
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Originally Posted by See Ecks
Thought maybe it was just a Yankee thing, but even ol' Flatfloor don't call'em that. Now we'll prolly hear from Richie and Alex bein' all offended, too.
I'm so offended!

Now why are you all building showers at the top of the steps? Isnt that supposed to be a landing up there?
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Unread 01-31-2008, 11:46 AM   #27
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John I'm certainly not saying it won't work, only that it's not one of the approved methods by the national body that is in charge of all tile standards for our country. That's why I'd love to hear the answers to those questions we all asked. If you would like to see what the approved methods are, you can go here and get a copy of the Handbook for Ceramic Tile Installation in their publications section.
It looks like perhaps your method differs from the standard in that your liner only protects half the curb, then you go back and add a liquid waterproofing cap after your mortar to make up for it.
I'd still love to know how you attach the lath on the outside, is it tucked into the top slot or does it cover the whole curb? Thanks!
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