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Unread 12-09-2004, 05:52 AM   #1
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laticrete 317 not setting up

Hey all
Has anyone had problems with laticrete 317 not grabbing hold of tile and taking forever to set up?
Temperatures were around 60 degrees.

Oh yeah i used a mapie unsanded grout in the shower on railto tile.
Would one need to seal this grout?

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Unread 12-09-2004, 06:29 PM   #2
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Don't use the stuff. Hope someone else can reply. We don't have a Laticrete rep on the site presently.

Seal the grout.
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Unread 12-09-2004, 07:23 PM   #3
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Could just be old thinset.

Was it an opened sack, or more than a year old?
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Unread 12-09-2004, 07:51 PM   #4
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If the Rialto is slick backed, and you trowelled the wall,with no backbutter, that's probably the problem with sticking. If you put the additive in, that sometimes retards the cure,especially on waterproofing, or denseshield, And there's always mhi's scenario.
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Unread 12-10-2004, 06:33 AM   #5
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rialto tile and maipie grout

Ok, got another question, or 2.
What to do about the efforlence(Spelling), on the grout. I tryed vinegar, didnt even touch it.
So what would i use to clean the rialto tile and this grout?
then what is the best to use to seal this combination?

thanks for your guidance guys!!!!!!
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Unread 12-10-2004, 07:16 AM   #6
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I assume the Rialto tile is the stuff from Lowes. It is a porcelain tile and does not require sealing. Since it is porcelain, I would advise you to put a skim coat of thinset on the back of the tiles in addition to troweling the thinset on the floor.

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Unread 12-10-2004, 07:35 AM   #7
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stiil need advice

thanks for the advice and that is what i ended up doing.
Of course after trial and error. hehehe

Still have the question about the white stuff on the grout( like what i should use to get it off) and what to seal the grout with.

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Unread 12-10-2004, 06:56 PM   #8
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Mac,

The white stuff might not be efflorescence. It might be latex migration to the surface of the joints. I would first try a stronger acid than vinegar. You can get either sulfamic or phosphoric at Home Depot or Lowes. Follow the directions and the safety advisory on the back label.

If that doesn't work, we'll call in the pros. You'll probably then need an alkaline cleaner.

One more thing. When using the vinegar or other acid you need to scrub with it. You can't just put it on and rinse it off.
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Unread 12-10-2004, 07:23 PM   #9
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Try Tec

I've been tiling for over 17 years and if there is a name brand product I refuse to use, it's Laticrete. Worst grout I've ever come across. Their thinsets aren't much better. If your setting outdoors, I recomend Tec full flex. Indoors, Tec sturdi flex is more economical and does a great job over most surfaces. I also recomend Tec grout over all others except C-cure, which I believe is west coast only. Mapai and Custom products are also superior to Laticrete.
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Unread 12-10-2004, 08:10 PM   #10
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We have come across two instances and heard of one where it appeared to be grout in the thinset bags. Down this end known as Crapicrete.
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Unread 12-10-2004, 08:16 PM   #11
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Well, i'll call your Laticrap and raise you an SGM, they frequently have made my jobs miserable in the past with grout that wouldn't set up...on mexican tile no less,for 5 hours,interior,in Florida.
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