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Unread 02-24-2020, 08:33 AM   #1
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Corner shelf screw up

Hello,
I am installing 3x6 subway tile with 1/8" grout lines(lipped tile with 1/16" spacer) over hydro ban over hardibacker using versabond white.
I made an error in where I blocked out for the corner shelves. I have a full tile 3" height blocked out and the shelf is only 2 1/2" tall total....wouldn't be a problem if I could notch a tile to fill at the top or bottom but I already installed the last tile where it meets the end of the shelf which doesn't fall in line with the running joints and would be left with an extra grout joint that wouldn't line up...should I install the shelf in middle and caulk 1/4" top and bottom? Should I remove that end tile and notch it?... is it easy to remove the tile without damaging the Hydro Ban(tile installed 10 days ago)?

I definitely want to remove the tiles and do it right but I don't want to damage the waterproofing. Or do I have any other options? Thanks in advance.
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Unread 02-24-2020, 09:17 AM   #2
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Hi Nick,

I can't see that you're doing first class work.

I think you can remove the cut tiles without too much damage to the Hydro Ban. You could then touch up those areas with new Hydro Ban. And keep in mind that you won't get a lot of water on the wall in that end of the tub.

You will need a tile saw to make the necessary "L" cuts, and they will be tedious cuts to make. Saw very carefully, and don't twist the tiles in the blade.

If it were one shelf I'd tell you to just use "skinnies" under the shelf, but three of them will be much more noticeable.
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Unread 02-24-2020, 09:39 AM   #3
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Why not put the soap dish at the top of the leave-out (with room for the grout joint) and fill in below with a skinny tile piece. The skinny tile will give a correct grout line to the tile below, and it will not be noticible becuse the soap dish will hide it.
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Unread 02-24-2020, 10:23 AM   #4
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I am with Ed's proposal.
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Unread 02-24-2020, 10:26 AM   #5
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How about a niche in the back wall and eliminate the shelves all together
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Unread 02-24-2020, 10:31 AM   #6
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The skinny tile will give a correct grout line to the tile below, and it will not be noticible becuse the soap dish will hide it.
I am not worried about the horizontal joint those will work fine either way the way they are. It is the vertical grout joint that won't match...if you look at the middle one it makes more sense. And I was thinking if I did just put the skinny tile in I would want to do the top because the shampoo bottles would hide it more than at the bottom. I should have done this
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How about a niche in the back wall and eliminate the shelves all together
Already went the rest of the way up on the back wall...I did leave out enough tiles on that side on the shelf blockouts to do it right though...
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Unread 02-24-2020, 10:46 AM   #8
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John thanks for the reply
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I can't see that you're doing first class work
Hoping that is an error LOL!
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Saw very carefully, and don't twist the tiles in the blade.
Not worried about cutting tile. I can do that good. I am just worried about the demo of the three tiles. Is there any tips on getting the tile out with minimal damage to the Hydro Ban?
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Unread 02-24-2020, 10:55 AM   #9
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Nick, if you did a good job of installing the tiles and if they've been installed more than a day, I think it highly unlikely that you'll remove any of them without damaging your waterproof membrane, but you won't know that until you attempt the removal.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Unread 02-24-2020, 11:30 AM   #10
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What grout colour are you planning on using? If white, then putting in the skinnies and having the additional vertical joints at the end of the shelf won't (shouldn't) be as noticeable. Of course you'll notice it every time you use the shower, but nobody else will.

If planning another colour, maybe make those 3 vertical joints white?

Just a thought. I understand the desire to have a perfect installation, but sometimes you have to give in to the small things. Pulling tiles might damage the waterproofing. Granted, that may not be too much of an issue since its on the far wall.
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Unread 02-24-2020, 12:01 PM   #11
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Dan,
We are definitely doing a white type grout. It is an idea to leave it. I just get obsessive when I have an error. However, it is the wife's bathroom so I won't be using it LOL...
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Unread 02-24-2020, 12:32 PM   #12
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Could you possibly find a different corner shelf that is the full 3” thick?


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Unread 02-24-2020, 01:19 PM   #13
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I'd put the shelf at the top and make an L-shaped piece for the bottom.

Actually I guess it would be two pieces at the bottom.
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Unread 02-24-2020, 02:30 PM   #14
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Remove the cut and put in an L piece. If you break the piece being removed with a hammer and punch or screwdriver it shouldn't be that difficult, then HydroBan the divots. Nice work btw.
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Thanks Jerry!
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