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Unread 10-21-2009, 05:37 PM   #1
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7 10" Tile Saw Reviews

Came across this and thought I might share it...


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Unread 10-21-2009, 05:47 PM   #2
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That's all just fine, but use all of them for 15 years straight, then tell me which one out lasted the others.
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Unread 10-22-2009, 05:25 AM   #3
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Interesting.........No Mention of COST EFFECTIVENESS.....

No Mention of Life expectancy

MK declined to participate.............

2 tile setters, both from boulder colorado participated but there is No information on:
A - How Long they have been in the trade
B - Type of work they do Mainly
C - Type of saw they use daily

Ask all the old guys in the trade.........those who have converted to doing MOST work with a TM75 and a 4" grinder WHICH saw would suit them best on a day in day out basis.........

There's a Time and a Place for the Big bruisers of the industry
There's a Time and a Place for the Dewalt (Just used it on the twin cities job)
There's a Time and a Place for the lil portables ( about 80% of Jobs for me)

We are no longer in a Trade where One size fits all.....Multiple options for dealing with our particular needs based on job type/Job size works best and remains the most cost effective........

Finally, there are enough things in this trade that wear out the body without adding to them by dealing with MORE equipment than is Needed to do the job...

There is a reason very few tilesetters reach retirement or 30 + years in the trade...........Finding ways to add years to the backend of your chosen career should be a priority for ALL professional's.

If I move a saw to 80 jobs per year I move it 160 times (minimum)

If it weighs 100#'s ive handled 16,000 Lbs ( 8 tons ) JUST moving the saw.

If it weighs 1/3 of that we drop to 5.333 Lbs per year, a Substantial difference.....But, since a small saw cant handle everything lets bump that up to 8,000 Ibs adding the need for a large saw on occassion.

8 tons x 30 years...240 tons or 480,000 Lbs
4 tons x 30 years...120 tons 0r 240,000 Lbs.

To put that in perspective the DIFFERENCE is 3 FULL TO MAXIMUM LEGAL WEIGHT SEMI TRUCKLOADS of TILE ( Aprox 25-30,000 s/f of tile carried from truck to set up point )

How much wear and tear on your body is saved moving a quarter million lbs Less.........I would think it alone might be enough to add time to the backend of your career.

Whats 1 more year of work worth to you?? 30,000....40,000....60,000.00????
Whats 2 more years worth??

WORK SMARTER, NOT HARDER!!
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Unread 10-22-2009, 08:45 AM   #4
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Richie~

I agree. Have used my Felker Tilemaster for 18 years now. No complaints, though the TM 75 is gettin' used more & more.......
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Unread 10-22-2009, 10:34 AM   #5
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I use the TM-75 whenever I can because it is so light and portable, but why can't they make a tray that rolls better! I don't care how much to oil and clean it the thing just needs better bearings or something
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Unread 10-22-2009, 04:50 PM   #6
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Todd!! Excellent post!

I tell the guy I work with, work smart not hard he gets mad cause when he was my age it was all hard, oh well sucks to be you.

Jason,

If the cart on the Tm-75 was like the one on the tilematic i would be in heaven!
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Unread 10-22-2009, 05:02 PM   #7
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oh Todd, this was at the bottom.


Boulder, Colo., tile contractors Justin Snow and Joe Brown contributed to this test.
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Unread 10-22-2009, 05:44 PM   #8
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As I mentioned in another thread, my TM 75 was stolen during Hurricaine Ike....but I just found a new one on Ebay for $230. Told him I'd take it if he included shipping.


He did.
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Unread 10-22-2009, 06:42 PM   #9
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I love my TM-75 too and feel that the tray really sucks. If there were an aftermarket heavy stainless tray that would be sweet.
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Unread 10-23-2009, 06:21 AM   #10
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Between me an ya'll and the fencepost, that Tray was not part of the initial PLAN for that thar saw ( well, perhaps plan isnt the right word.....One mans Idea that got skewed ........)

Personally, I believe if you took a TM75.....Increased the throat height..Improved the TRAY/Roller system.....Even IF it added a hundred to 150.00 to End user cost, You'd have a Lightweight serviceable saw that would do 90% of what we need and do it well!!

And it could still come in well under 50 lbs considering its 35 now!!

ANY Manufacturer out there Interested in BUILDING this Unit, CALL ME

I'll SELL IT ALL DAY , DAY IN AND DAY OUT If it Meets required SPECS for a PRO.........I WILL NOT SETTLE!!!
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Unread 10-23-2009, 07:12 PM   #11
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Well, the TM-75 will only cut a 14" tile, 10" on a diagonal. DeWalt wins, no surprise there -

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Unread 10-23-2009, 11:51 PM   #12
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Gee, I know this doesn't really count, bein a non-pro and all, but the way I have my $88 HD table wet saw set-up I cut 20" Porcelain diagonally for my kitchen/entryway without hardly a problem at all! And it has held up pretty well considering the abuse it takes from me! But like I said...it doesn't really count.
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Unread 10-23-2009, 11:56 PM   #13
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They wrote off the second gen ridgid, which after seeing it first hand I have too. I love my first gen one, but the new one isnt built as sturdy, and has an inferior rail system. I really wanted to pick of the 7" one for small work, but it is even worse.
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Unread 10-24-2009, 06:16 AM   #14
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Looks like a paid advertisement for dewalt.
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Unread 10-24-2009, 06:52 AM   #15
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Tilejoe- I can see your point, but have you ever seen or used 6this saw?

As I've said before, it's kind of sad thar a non-tile company had to step up and bitchslap the tile saw industry so easily. The response from the tile saw industry in the (5- 6 how many?) years since the DW2400's introduction are sad and laughable.

MK has tried to step up to the plate, but the TX-3 is an improvement over the old 101, but does not beat the DeWalt. Why do you think they declined to participate? Why do you think Matt Crestone has shelved his TX-3 for a 2400?

There is an almost ( ) credible rumor that Felker will introduce a new saw for the new era of tile we are now in. I wish them well, can't wait to try it. Hell, I may need to buy one since so many of you predict that my DeWalt will be dead any day now.

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