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Unread 12-03-2009, 08:28 PM   #1
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White haze on grout

Can I use a vinegar mixture to remove the white haze I have on the grout from having applied too much sealer? Or is there something better to use? It has tried for a couple of days.

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Unread 12-03-2009, 08:45 PM   #2
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Dunno what sealer you used but most of them will re-emulsify if you apply a little more sealer. Once it's loose, wipe off the excess.

What sealer did you use?

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Unread 12-03-2009, 11:17 PM   #3
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Try what Jason suggested first. Just make sure the second time around you thouroughly wipe off the excess on the tile.
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Unread 12-04-2009, 05:16 AM   #4
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If that does not work, I have use with good results a product called Klenz-all. I think it's a Mapei product. You will not find it everywhere so you will have do a product search when and if. This will strip the sealer completely.
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Unread 12-04-2009, 01:11 PM   #5
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Thank you for the replies.

The haze did not lift when I reapplied the sealer and wiped it up. I will try it again and then try the product recommended above if necessary.

Will the haze fade over time from normal wear?

I used Grout Guard from TEC.
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Unread 12-04-2009, 02:22 PM   #6
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Typically the sealer will grab onto grout and be hard to remove as suggested.It will probably need to be stripped,my guess is too much sealer was used and dried without soaking in.
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Unread 12-05-2009, 01:32 AM   #7
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Hi Jimbo, Welcome!

It's important to know what sealer you actually used. Based on my experience it sounds like you used a water based sealer. I'm familiar with one brand that this is a common issue.

Now it has probably totally cured. The KlenzAll product mentioned above is manufactured by Dupont Stone Tech. It is a high alkaline that I doubt will resolve your problem.

You may want to start with Aqua Mix's Coating & Sealer remover.

Please get back to us with more details.
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Unread 12-05-2009, 09:27 AM   #8
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KlenzAll is one of the things we ask people to try when there is a waterbased sealer residue problem. Depending on the type of tile, an acidic cleaning, as if trying to remove grout haze, could also be effective.
Much depends on technique. Let the products soak for a few minutes. Most of the time this means keeping 'em moving with a brush. Then a good scrub and rinse....
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Hi George

What ratio is recommended for KlenzAll in this application? How long can a WB sealer product cure before this method becomes ineffective?

Same questions for Restore.

I'm not as familiar with your WB products and solutions as the SB ones. Thanks for your input!
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John -

Alkaline cleaners like KlenzAll as well as acidic cleaners like Restore can break the bond of certain active ingredients found in waterbased sealers. Standard dilutions (1:4) are the place to start. I would not go much stronger than 1:2.
One of the keys to effective residue removal is dwell time. The cleaning liquid needs to be given time to attack the sealer bond. Start at 4-6 minutes for either solution. With the alkaline KlenzAll the dwell time can be extended up to 15 minutes or longer. An acid should be vacuumed up or refreshed every 6-10... not much different than regular cleaning with these products. Agitation is important but not always heavy scrubbing.
Solutions can be made stronger but that does not always make the process faster...sometimes it just requires perseverance....
Also, this process does not work with silicone sealers very effectively.
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Unread 12-06-2009, 06:35 PM   #14
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Hi George

Thanks for sharing that important info. It's good to know I have your chemicals on my vehicle that can do more than I thought. I'm aware that stronger solutions aren't necessarily the better route to take.
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From filming winders

We sometimes employ a little trick to keep wall surfaces wet longer so chemicals can take time to react before they run down the wall, or evaporate.

You can coat the wall with the chemical as usual, then right away place on a sheet of plastic film. The plastic will cling to the wall, keeping it from drying out and extending the working time. If you need to add more chemical, peel back the very top and spritz some more in.
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