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Unread 11-02-2010, 08:35 PM   #1
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1st ditra install

I am going to try my first ditra install tomorrow for a kitchen floor. The tiles are 13". The sub-floor is 3/4 ply with 3/8 ply nailed over top. The joists are 2x10, 16"oc, 11' span. I will be purchasing all my material from the Home Depot so my question is which morter for under the ditra and which for over the ditra?
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Unread 11-02-2010, 08:42 PM   #2
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Hi Scott,

Ditra is modified below if bonding to plywood, and unmodified above.

Homers doesn't sell a good unmodified, so swapping in a lightly modified thinset like Versabond is frequently done without a problem. It works below, as well, tho you could spend more for the exact same result with a different thinset.
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Unread 11-02-2010, 09:01 PM   #3
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Just make sure you get good coverage under your ditra. I have seen a number or ditra jobs go bad just because people didn't get their corners down good, and that ended up giving the rest of it issues also.
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Unread 11-02-2010, 09:11 PM   #4
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So Ed you think I could use vera on top and bottom? I do have a local tile store that I could check for other non modified. There is also a Lowes in town
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Unread 11-02-2010, 09:18 PM   #5
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Scott if you have a lowes I would pick up some kerabond for the top. Kerabod is a pretty good dry set and it's not to badly priced. Versabond will work under just fine, or if you want to get thinset for both from lowes use Ultraflex 2 for the bottom.
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what size trowel are u planing to use Scott?
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Thanks Levi. I'm not sure I've ever seen kerabond at lowes but I will check tomorrow.
Jeff I was going to go with 3/16 v notch
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if u can find a 1/8 square notch u'll get better coverage
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Versabond above and below doesn't technically meet the mfr specs, but it's been thoroughly field-tested to my satisfaction as a perfectly acceptable thinset mortar for use both above and below Ditra.
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If your Lowes doesn't have kerabond then it probably carries Laticrete which would be 317 or 211 I think (laticrete not readily available for me around here) but if they cary Mapei they will have kerabond
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thanks Pual
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Typically (at least in this area) Lowe's stocks Laticrete Multipurpose as a modified and Laticrete Megabond as unmodified - OR - Mapei Ultraflex 1 & 2 as modified and Mapei Keraset as unmodified.

You might find something differently at your store, but that gives you an idea of what to look for. Stay away from the Kerafloor if you happen to run across it. It's a lower-end unmodified.
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