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Unread 12-29-2009, 04:48 PM   #1
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Steam Shower advice needed

Called in by plumber, customer is asking to add a steam unit to existing shower. - Plumber is set and ready to go. 20th story, 4'x6' , curbless, sheetrock ceiling. No one has any idea what is behind the tile, how it was attached (I've seen way too many mastic showers), and they don't want tile on the ceiling.
We could use the job, but I am not that desperate. Epoxy paint the ceiling, and a very good sealer on the tile? Doubt that it gets used much.
But, I can see the possibility of tiles sliding down the walls. Advised them of all the things that are unknown, that the only thing we could warranty would be the steam unit, and they still want to go ahead.
Any suggestions ?
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Unread 12-29-2009, 05:21 PM   #2
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An improperly built and waterproofed steamer is nothing but a future headache waiting to happen and I wouldn't want my name on it. Even if you tell them "no warranty", they could still come after you when things go bad, and mold cleanup can be expensive. Just because it can be done, doesn't mean it should be done.
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Unread 12-29-2009, 07:01 PM   #3
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To be honest I would tell them either to let you build it correctly or walk away. It's difficult to do when you need the work but think about six months down the road. Whether you warranty it or not if you touch it in most states you are the one liable for any damages.
Just the fact that they don't want the ceiling done would make me nervous about touching anything for them. If they don't want something built properly do you honestly think they would hold up their end of the 'that's okay, we don't need you to warranty it' when it falls apart and they need someone to pay for it?
Tell them you need to build it properly or they need to have someone else do it. You may end up with the job anyway and a whole lot more respect from the customer. Or not, either way cya.
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Unread 12-29-2009, 07:09 PM   #4
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Steam Showers ... and Challenges ...

Steam showers can be great construction projects ... or they can be "nightmare" projects.

They really need to be "done right."

A comprehensive Technical Design Manual is available on this subject:

Tiled Steam Room and Steam Shower Technical Design Manual

The goal of this manual is to provide the necessary information to help ensure a proper and long-lasting tile installation in a steam room or steam shower environment.


http://www.laticrete.com/contractors...n_manuals.aspx

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Unread 12-29-2009, 07:34 PM   #5
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Thanks. I know I need to walk, and I have explained to them several times that if we are going to do it, lets do it right. They have several other properties, I have done work for them and they are golden as customers. Why this has become such a sticking point...(I told the plumber I am blaming him as he sold them the idea prior to talking with me)
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Unread 12-29-2009, 08:30 PM   #6
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I'd download and print out a couple pics of exactly what they have in store for them if they try and 'put the cart before the horse' by just tossing a steam unit into a regular shower. Mold is not a possibility, it's a guarantee if they do that. Mold will not only be costly, but will be hazardous to their health. Include a page with details on cost of mold removal and a data sheet on the health issues. A steam shower is a major investment, not something to just do that way. Kind of like duct-taping a hot tub to the side of a mobile home.
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