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08-31-2009, 07:38 PM
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Thinset over KERDI............er, um....Ditra
When you guys fill waffels in DIRTA the day before tiling. Does it matter what kind of thinset you use? I know to set the tile you need to use un-modified..
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08-31-2009, 07:51 PM
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If you're worried about the warranty, Schluter says nuttin' but unmodified between the Ditra & tile.
If you don't care about warranty......then it's your choice.
I know several folks (including JB) use slightly modified to modified to set tile on Ditra.
My .02.
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08-31-2009, 07:52 PM
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I use 317 from laticrete. But I don't prefill. But if I did i would use 317.
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08-31-2009, 08:10 PM
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were not settin tile............we are filling waffels................Hammy
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08-31-2009, 08:12 PM
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I pre-fill & I use Ditra-Set.
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08-31-2009, 08:21 PM
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I dont pre-fill, but i use ditra-set to set the tiles and if i were to pre-fill id be very confident with the ditra-set.
Hammy, curious to why your only filling the waffles and not setting tile.
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08-31-2009, 08:24 PM
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pre-filling seems like a waste of time to me..... But hey I use versabond.
And I like to get my tile down already so I can get a paycheck!
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08-31-2009, 08:38 PM
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I pre-fill usually. Why? Because the action of filling is easy, fast gives a faster set the next day. I'd bet it's faster to fill a floor then set next day, then do fill & set at one time. You can really whip when there are no tiles or layout lines to watch out foy. Also, if the concern about is drying time - you know that 100% of the modified will dry overnight.
I only use modified to fill when there is stll some left in the bucket after setting the ditra. Once I am out of that I mix up unmodified to fill the rest.
Per Schluter reps: " you must only use unmodfied over ditra". But if you read between the
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you can use a lightly modified thinset
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but no warranty in a pinch.
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08-31-2009, 09:02 PM
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why is this thread titled thinset over KERDI if its about DITRA????
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08-31-2009, 09:20 PM
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were not settin tile............we are filling waffels
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I'm lost too.
but you are going to tile it and then the thinset will
be between the tile and the Kerdi Dirta Ditra
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08-31-2009, 09:27 PM
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not really.
if I do a small job I wont. set the Ditra then fill and set tile.
If I do a large job, set all Ditra and pre-fill, set tile next day easier.
but to each is own.
I just hate pushing around so much thinset when setting the tile.
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08-31-2009, 10:09 PM
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Hammy, it doesn't matter on the prefill.
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08-31-2009, 11:27 PM
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I pre-fill because I think makes setting the tile easier and I believe its a better/stronger bond. I use the flat side of the trowel, so I do a few square feet at at time, takes only a minute or so.. If the waffles aren't filled, I don't sleep well.
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09-01-2009, 12:16 AM
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When I do pre-fill, it's with DitraSet or Kerabond.
And Mike...just what part are you referring to when you say you feel you're getting a better/stronger bond? Ditra to thinset, pre-filled thinset to setting thinset, or thinset to tile?
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09-01-2009, 05:36 AM
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why is this thread titled thinset over KERDI if its about DITRA????
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Guess I wasnt thinking straight.......... what else is new. Thanks for editing the title. Hammy
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