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Unread 09-09-2018, 01:24 PM   #1
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Accidentally used modified over ditra. Need advice fast

My father made a mistake and accidentally used a bag of modified on a row of tiles by using the wrong bag. Should we rip these tiles up or will they eventually dry?

The project is a slow no rush job so I can wait a while if they will dry, and avoid stepping on that row. I'm also not going to continue on that side of the room so it is possible the tiles may dry faster as they are not sandwiched between other rows of tiles.

or will they never dry and I should rip them up ASAP?

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Unread 09-09-2018, 01:26 PM   #2
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It'll be fine, give it more time to set than usual. It's what I would have used anyway.
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Unread 09-09-2018, 01:28 PM   #3
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From my experience Edward if you don't mind an extended drying time it will be A-ok. What did you use to put the tile down?
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Unread 09-09-2018, 01:29 PM   #4
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Quick finger Davy over here!
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Unread 09-09-2018, 01:37 PM   #5
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Thanks, that was super fast response.

Here are pictures of the tiles I laid down with the modified. They are marked with an X.

Will they dry faster if I don't add any tiles next to them?

How long would you give it until I start adding on that side of the floor?


The modified thin set was the Versa Bond as shown in the picture below from Home depot.

Thanks again.

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Unread 09-09-2018, 01:48 PM   #6
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It's not recommended but I use Versabond all the time over Ditra. In my opinion, it'll stick better to the tiles than unmodified. I'd give it as long as it takes to mix another bucket.

Justin, I'm a chicken pecker from way back.
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Unread 09-09-2018, 02:11 PM   #7
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Uh oh Edward. Please tell us the tiles marked with red x's aren't the ones you set with modified. If it were the row before that, you'd be okay. Now you're going to have to jack the house up and install a new foundation under it.



Like Davy said, you'll be fine.
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Unread 09-09-2018, 02:55 PM   #8
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Versabond is as good as it gets for modified over Ditra, I've installed a patio that way... last beer a sipped over at the homeowners house everything was still good.
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Unread 09-09-2018, 04:15 PM   #9
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Your pictures freaked me out. LOL
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Unread 09-09-2018, 05:10 PM   #10
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Are those the same exact tiles? Do you have issues with them being a bit warped and making everything perfectly flat?

I wish I never got these tiles to be honest.
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Unread 09-09-2018, 05:20 PM   #11
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The modifieds that are problematic on a waterproof membrane are those that utilize a latex modifier...Versabond does not. https://www.custombuildingproducts.c...st-2017_12.pdf

But, since most people won't read the SDS to determine the actual type of modifiers in the mix, the safest thing is to not use one.
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Unread 09-09-2018, 05:32 PM   #12
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Quite sure the exact ones. Package from Spain? We tossed the real light ones without good contrast.
The are pretty flat, and with self levelers they come out fine. I did a random pattern exceding 33% and there is no lippage. One thing, you can't scratch them. Hard stuff.
I used Delorean gray grout. Looks good. (She picked them out). Shhhh
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Unread 09-10-2018, 04:09 AM   #13
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i always use an LFT when laying tiles with an edge longer than 15".
i thought that was industry standard nowadays
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Unread 09-10-2018, 11:17 PM   #14
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Jim... I've been waiting to read something like that since I heard about Ditra and unmodifed. Check the Data Sheet, look for latex modifiers... pretty simple.

Amazing how easy that is, and this is the first I've heard of it. About as revolutionary as finding out chicken doesn't need to be 165°. It's a time and temperature chart. 155° held for about 60 seconds is the same as 165° instantly.... mind blown today
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edward
My father made a mistake and accidentally used a bag of modified

Why do dads always get the blame for everything?
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