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05-24-2006, 03:27 PM
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slip joints
does anyone actually put slip joints in their showers?
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05-24-2006, 04:57 PM
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Mudmeister
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Jered, tell me what a slip joint is, and I might incorporate one here and there. 
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05-24-2006, 06:16 PM
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Remodeler -- Southern Cal.
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I tried to once, but slipped.
I think he must mean control joints or expansion joints. If that is what you are meaning--the answer is no.
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05-25-2006, 07:10 AM
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What if it was a huge gym shower or something? The showers in a pool I worked at when I was a teenager was probably 16 x 20 or something, and had a ton of showers and drains in it. I have no idea if they had any control joints in it or not, but with something that size I would think it should have.
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05-25-2006, 07:20 AM
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Tile Contractor
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Well since everyone here relies so much on the tca handbook which is a good reference that only goes so far then you should know what a slip joint is!
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05-25-2006, 08:03 AM
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wd've been nice to tell a bit more. Anything more. Did you read it recently in the TCNA book? R U sure?
i web searched 'slip joint' and found it applies to linear expansion, and is used in plumbing but not tiling. According to the first hundred of ten million hits.
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05-25-2006, 08:07 AM
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it has been in the handbook for quite a while. it is shown under steamers at this point in time.
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05-25-2006, 08:10 AM
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Are you talking about a movement joint??? 
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05-25-2006, 08:19 AM
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ok, maybe it makes sense on the steam supply pipe.
like a ring with rubber inside to let the pipe inside it lengthen and shorten a bit (that would be slip, in my opinion). Makes sense for a steam thing where temperature goes up and down by a hundred or more degrees.
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05-25-2006, 08:21 AM
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Tile Contractor -- Napa, CA.
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Hi Jared,
I see it too. It's to isolate the lid from the walls. Looks like they have foam backer rod and caulking there.
I was also taught that ceiling lath (on a floated one) isn't supposed to wrap down the wall, for the same reason. I didn't notice that in the TCA. 
Mark
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05-25-2006, 09:44 AM
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lathe
The only wrap I perform in a shower is the curb. And somtime the wife, if you know what I mean......... But correct on the shower ceiling, always did it but didn't really stop to think about it. Makes sense though because of the rising of the steam and moisture. HHHHMMMMMMM..............
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05-27-2006, 10:25 AM
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Tile Contractor -- Napa, CA.
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I wrap the vertical corners with lath in my showers. I think the 'wife wrap' would make homeowners feel awkward, and that 'war' can be pokey.
Mark
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05-27-2006, 11:19 AM
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Oregon Tile Man
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Steam showers are an entirely different animal than a standard shower...though I have in the past floated larger showers that isolated each wall as a seperate panel, divided by closed cell foamstrips and the wire was not wrapped in the corners, the open joint then filled with sealant.
I think I got into this from my trip to CTEF..pretty sure we isolated all walls when floating there.
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05-28-2006, 08:54 AM
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Tile Contractor -- Napa, CA.
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Forgot we were talking about steam showers, I got distracted by the 'wife wrap'
Trask,on a regular shower, how large of a wall are we talking about, to start thinking about isolating walls from one another? Gang shower'ish sized?
Mark
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05-28-2006, 12:35 PM
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Oregon Tile Man
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Really I think you should on any to be by the book, but that's just my gut instinct and honestly it rarely happens. The last shower I did this on was about 8'x5' in a residence. I also added wire and "moose milk" (just a little latex) to the dry pack cause it was so large and a little on the thin side,(1 1/4"). I think all this is a bit of extra work and that's why it's not always done, but I don't think it hurts if your in the mood for something to last forever and a day. This happened to be in very high brow clients house who wanted to watch and was not shy about paying for details.
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