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Unread 01-24-2008, 01:38 PM   #1
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Hi everyone

Every now and then I run accross a situation that just has to be shared. Here we go..........................


A good client's friend called me the other day in a panic. She had been having her master bath remodeled and was at her wits end because of the contractor.

It seems that Mr. Contactor was getting most of his advice right out of the Big Orange.
He had been there for several months on and off putting a new heated tile floor, tub deck/apron/splash, new glass block window, shower etc. He got as far as the shower before she finally melted down

She decided to not use the shower until I could get there to look at it.

Here is what I saw.............
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Unread 01-24-2008, 02:08 PM   #2
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hard to tell what is wrong with it. Other than knowing they got there info from HD. Small pieces are hard to hide when doing castle block.
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Unread 01-24-2008, 02:31 PM   #3
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Can`t tell much about it with the pics?? If theres somtin rong I can`t see it.
Is that a square drain? Kerdi? Looks like the layout wern`t too bad ! Will there be a test at the end?
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Other than that metal corner stuff which I don't like inside showers, slivers, and the top dish bein a little high fer me.... maybe there isn't a door???
From here there looks to be a slope on the floor.. What up??
Did he leave the spacers in? Is that cloudyness grout film? Are those circles on the tile or on the lense of the camera... Help us out here a little.. I'm dyin...
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Unread 01-24-2008, 02:50 PM   #5
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Sorry guys - got sidetracked. Be back shortly with more pictures and an explaination.
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Unread 01-24-2008, 02:55 PM   #6
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You can't see in the pictures but the edges of the tile were chipped. The contractor installed the tile straight joint but the client wanted it running bond. He chipped the tiles getting them out and re installed them that way. Whe she asked about the chips he wanted to paint them.

Other than that it looked like an average job from the outside. Given some of the stories she told me about the tile guys - I recommended a complete redo.

When I started the demo here are a few things I found......
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Unread 01-24-2008, 03:05 PM   #7
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Lots of Hardibacker with metal corners everywhere
drywall screws used
No liner on the seat
Hundreds of nails through the liner that was down
No blocking at the door
missing insulation
missing vapor barier
electric wiring in direct contact with copper pipes in the shower
electric heat mat installed with duct tape at the perimeter
rotten subfloor left intact
wood strips left in shower bed
no prefloat
thin set used for shower floor base
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Wow! Thanks for sharing.

(edit)- What am I seeing in the third from last photo? It looks like a wood frame caulked to the top of a liner but the frame has a liner on top of it? Do I have it right?
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I think I seen some of that stuff he did in the books they sell at the big Stores.....

at least the rip out was easy !
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Nails through panliner? No problem. This guy decided his curb needed to be higher after he wrapped it in panliner. Don't know when he was planning to tile the wall!
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What am I seeing in the third from last photo? It looks like a wood frame caulked to the top of a liner but the frame has a liner on top of it? Do I have it right?

That's what it looks like Bob but that is just an imprint on the thin set that they poured in the pan. They left the wood float strips in the floor and used a trim nailer to put hundreds of finish nails into the strips to nail them to the floor (through the liner!)

But hey - at least they caulked the wood strips down to the pan with White Lightening


Here's a closeup.............
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They left the wood float strips in the floor and used a trim nailer to put hundreds of finish nails into the strips to nail them to the floor (through the liner!)
Ho- Leeeeeee Crap!


Here's a snapshot of lovely mastic on backerboard drywall screwed through liner on curb.... I pulled out the cracked grout in the corners of this shower too and could see wood studs, plain as day.
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