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Unread 11-13-2009, 02:37 PM   #1
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Quarry tile/pre-sealer before grout

I have about 1500' of 6x6 quarry tile to grout and I've been poking around

trying to find out if I should seal prior to grouting.

I'm using Laticrete's permacolor grout and was thinking of sealing with

StoneTech's Bulletproof sealer before grouting.

After it cures, sealing once more with bulletproof.

My thinking is that it will make the clean up process easier.

Any comments?
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Unread 11-13-2009, 02:43 PM   #2
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Normal quarry? Abrasive? that texture that looks like a truck's toolbox?

I've never presealed quarry. not even abrasive. never had an issue with grouting it.
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Unread 11-13-2009, 04:15 PM   #3
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Its 6x6 quarry diablo red from Dal-tile. not sure who the manufacturer is.
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Unread 11-13-2009, 04:21 PM   #4
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Actually it's textured but not abrasive

I've never grouted quarry tile before , but I figured that without sealing it

first it

would be a bitch to clean up,maybe I should just try a small area first

The sealing process just adds more time to an already hectic schedule.

The area is in a restaurant thats being remodeled, and there is all kinds of

kitchen equipment to move back and forth, ya know
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Unread 11-13-2009, 04:33 PM   #5
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I always seal the quarry before i grout. The brand i use is Aqua Mix. If you read the label on the jug it will tell you that it can be used as a grout release. You can either sponge it on or get a large paint roller with a pole to apply it. Use a smooth nap roller and be carefull not to get in the joints. You will find the grout comes up so much easier with a release or a sealer applied beforehand.
I have used it with both smooth quarry and abrasive. What color grout are you using?
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Unread 11-13-2009, 04:41 PM   #6
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Laticrete Permacolor Natural Grey
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Unread 11-13-2009, 04:44 PM   #7
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StoneTech Grout release.. Then StoneTech Heavy Duty Sealer after its grouted and cured a few days
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The reason i ask is that the darker color grouts will tend to stain more than the lighter ones. imo
Treat yourself and use a sealer or a grout release. You will love it.
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Natural Grey wouldnt be a problem, but you can seal like Craig said.
I would only seal when using black grout.
a light acid wash with a deck brush would clean it up anyways.
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Unread 11-13-2009, 06:24 PM   #10
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I have never sealed quarry tile. Waste of money!

Double abrasive quarry tile with black grout was our standard for many years! Grout as normal and final towel drag with a little Surekleen 600 and if was good to go.
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Unread 11-14-2009, 07:57 AM   #11
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How about sealing after its grouted?

Is bulletproof overkill?
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I would do what the customer wants and is paying for.

is this a commercial kitchen or a homeowners patio ??
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Unread 11-14-2009, 02:54 PM   #13
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Commercial kitchen

Actually a chinese restaurant
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Unread 11-14-2009, 02:58 PM   #14
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They are looking for my opinion in what will be the best installation in terms of ease of cleaning and durability

I gave them the option of epoxy grout ( 1/2 heartedly ) They balked at the extra expense

So I figured permacolor grout and seal the heck out of it with the best possible sealer I could buy
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if they are not willing to pay for an epoxy then they cant get the best installation in terms of ease of cleaning and durability.
I would do the cement grout, clean it and let them have at it.

I would only final seal a customers home I they had quarry on their patio, basement, etc.
commercial work we grout, clean up and let them destroy it.
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