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Unread 11-20-2005, 10:48 PM   #1
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Will's MIL's backsplash

Planning on doing my MIL's backsplash between Christmas and New Year. First question - she had a 4" granite backsplash installed with her granite countertops. She didn't ask me about this beforehand, but I also didn't tell her not to do the 4" strip of granite. I don't want to remove them because she paid for them and it's water under the bridge. Is it kosher to put backsplash tile above a 4" standard splash or does it look way tacky?

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Unread 11-20-2005, 11:10 PM   #2
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Depends upon what you pewt up there, Will, and who's lookin', eh?

Safest way is to let MIL choose the tile and pattern and what all. Then dear, sweet SIL pewts it up there for free and don't never wanna hear no grief.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Unread 11-20-2005, 11:17 PM   #3
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Her choice. Yep. I agree. That is some good advice. Her choice is key.
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Unread 12-29-2005, 10:07 PM   #4
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Welp I've been spending my vacation putting up tile on the MIL's backsplash. I think the intallation is going pretty well. Using mastic for the first time and it's working well. I like thinset better, but it's also nice not having to mix batches of pookey and clean tools outside.

I don't claim any responsibility for the color or design choices. Not my taste, but the customer likes it.
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Welp finished the splash today and I think it looks pretty good. Used Omnigrip mastic and a grout by Superior Adhesives "Pro Grout". MIL got it from the tile shop, I didn't choose it. Pain in the butt to grout with, I mixed it a bit dry and it didn't seem to have the pot life I have experienced with Mapei grout. Anyway, chalk another tile project up. I learned a few things and the MIL is happy. That means wife is happy.
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Pretty easy way to git MIL points, you axe me.
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She's gotta be liking that, Will. It's too late for this suggestion w/o a lot of hassle, but wouldn't undercabinet lights look great under there?
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Tool Guy,

Yep under cabinet lights would look great. But I finished the project last night, and now I'm 550 miles away.

I'm not a real expert on mounting those lights anyway - how to get power to them is where I get hung up. I don't like the "plug in" kind, I would prefer to hard wire. But pulling power and running the romex through the cabinet has me stumped.

New construction I can see how it's done, but haven't seen it done on a remodel with my own eyes.
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Hard wire is best...

...But you really have to do it before the tile is on the walls (unless you need a challenge). Use a 3 1/2" hole saw to pop a hole in the backsplash drywall directly below where you want to mount a light. Then fish romex into that wall cavity and to the 3 1/2" hole. Then drill 1/2" hole through the cabinet back right where the light is going to be mounted. Stick your hand in the big 3 1/2" hole and feed the romex out through the tiny 1/2" hole and out to the light. Screw some scrap plywood to the back of the large drywall hole and you can put the original 3 1/2" drywall chunk right back into position. Presto.

But since you're 550 miles away....
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Tool Guy,

Hope you don't mind me asking but it seems you are familiar with the under cabinet lights.

I bought 6 of these lights and was wondering if you had any suggestions as to how deep under the cabinets to attach them.

They are 4" wide.

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Hi Jack,
Short answer is: shove the fixture all the way back to the wall and you'll never have a problem with the inspectors.

Long answer is: depends on your local friendly electrical inspector. Most of them do not want the romex exposed between the wall and the fixture for any more distance than absolutley necessary. If you want to pull them forward towards the front of the cabinet, some inspectors want you to sheath the romex in some fashion. Or use BX armored coming out of the wall.

Some inspectors are more leanient and will let you pull the fixture forward and expose several inches of romex. But I've never had inspectors tell me what they require and have the same story more than 2 times in a row. So we always install them all the way back against the wall and never have a problem come inspection time. The reflector behind the bulb spreads the light forward onto center of the countertop, rather than straight down, so the results are fine. I don't have customers asking to have the fixtures pulled forward after they are installed.
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If you get you some low-voltage lights you won't have so much problem with wiring. Pewt a transformer on top of the cabinets or inside one and then don't nobody care as much where them wars go after that.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Thanks Bubba..all the way back it is
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The inspectors around these parts have a problem with the "hockey puck" style of low voltage lights. The have been banned/not banned a bunch of times. Depends what municipality you are talking about. It's bad enough that we no longer even try to get them passed anymore.
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