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Old 05-22-2007, 06:01 PM   #1
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Scott's Master Bath/(project 1)

Hello all, Scott here. Just like to start by saying I've been involved in several forums (diy/home improvement, high stakes poker,bass fishin, math ...) but I have never seen anything as helpful, friendly and addictive as this one. Unbelievably helpful group thanks for taking the time to help us not so gifted diy'ers.

I'm a math teacher so have the summer to work on a big addition to the house that the wife and 2 kids have grown out of. Starting end of June. This will be my first of many posts/questions. Ordered the book and ebook, read ebook, just got TYW.

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1. Doing the entire Master Bath (project 1)
2. Doing entire kitchen (cabs, counters, floor)
3. Doing entire 2nd bath
4. Tiling mudroom/storage area

My first question for you guys is: how can I fit a toilet, small double vanity/sink, kerdi shower (preferably 32"x60" or 48"x48) and a standard size drop in tub in my bath that right now is set to be only 7'x13'.
The bonus is that I can increase that length (13') and steal from the walk-in closet which I assume i'll have to do. I can take as much as I need though I dont want to go crazy, wife has lots of stuff to put in that closet.
Since you guys will hopefully be building this with me I figured now is the time to get you involved. Thanks in advance.

I have (at least I hope I followed the instr) attached a scan of part of my building plans.
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:00 PM   #2
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Welcome Scott!!
Looks like you have done your research on the formalities and informalities here. The perfect way to start a project. I quickly sketched out a simple idea you may have already had, but we'll stick it out there for the forum others to pick apart. This cuts down the closet by 4' and may not leave room for the door, neither will be liked by the wife. Excuse my artistic abilities. [IMG]
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:51 PM   #3
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Thanks Brad, this is about what I was expecting using my graph paper and cutouts. What I wasn't sure about was the necessary clearances around toilet, how close things could get and still be reasonable. I was hoping (wife again) to keep the length to 15' or less but just not sure thats possible. If anyone else can help do that great, otherwise I'll sleep on the couch and go with the 7x17.

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Scott, you could get a decorative cast iron tub instead of a drop in and save a foot there. We have this soaker tub and my wife loves it. Would be hard to save on space with a whirlpool. You will expand your option by straying from Schluter Kit and using Kerdi/Kerdi drain, mud floor, and brick or 2x4 curb.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:44 AM   #5
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Scott,

How about steeling 2 feet from the adjacent playroom?
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Old 05-23-2007, 01:10 PM   #6
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That was a really good plan Brad drew up. I'd make the shower 36" wide though, and then the toilet compartment goes down to 44" - still more than the 30" or 32" inches required by code. (And 44" will keep you from feeling claustrophobic in a closed area like that.)

If you want the room more open-feeling and don't feel strongly about having the toilet separated, you could take out that dividing wall or make it a pony wall with glass on top.

You can also look for a tub that isn't as quite as deep into the closet as Brad drew it...
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:44 PM   #7
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Ok, talked to the wife and showed her Brads plan. She doesn't want/need the door for toilet so I'm sure I could make the shower wider. If I decide to do that I am getting away from the (32x60 or 48x48) Kerdi kit so I can make the shower any size I like. We can't really steal much width from the playroom due to the window in the playroom (adjacent to walk-in) It is centered above 2 garage doors and is really nice. We might be able to squeeze 8' bathroom width though. Brad, I love the cast iron tub you showed me but it was almost double what I had budgeted. This remodel has gone from $50k to $120k already, not much more room to move.

So, I can possibly swing 8' width, would like to get down to 15' max length, can build shower any size I want. Does this make it any easier to fit what we want in an 8'x15'? Let me know if you have any ideas. I always have Brad's plan A to fall back on.

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Old 05-23-2007, 05:28 PM   #8
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Let's try this one Scott. Most drop in tubs need to be framed out at least 42"x66", I think. By making it 48"x72" you'll have a small ledge to sit on and more to tile . Approach to the tub might be difficult if it's a daily user. You could use a whirlpool with this. The toilet might be tight as well, but this is 15', put new linens on the couch and stretch it out to 16' for extra room . Hope you can read the details.
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Old 05-23-2007, 06:03 PM   #9
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Scott,

Would this work for you?
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Any problems with doing it this way, I like that layout. Tub won't be used nearly as much as the shower. Does bring up some tile/kerdi/... problems in my brain down the road but I'm sure you guys can help me there. This seems to eliminate some of the congestion by the tub area.

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Roger, I really would love to do that layout, and had something similar but was afraid of the toilet/vanity and shower/vanity clearances. But that layout would be great if I could bump out to 8'. You don't think it would be too tight? Also, it would allow me to keep my only window on the back wall. Cant see how to put a window in the other unless we off-center it and put it over the tub (guess that would be ok too).

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Scott,

I have the same clearance between my toilet/vanity (~2ft.) and it's not a problem. If you could bump it out to 8', It would be perfect. With the 45 degree door into the shower it will leave plenty of room.
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Old 05-23-2007, 06:49 PM   #13
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Went to boss with all choices. She chose this. She liked Rogers layout but didnt like the toilet in the middle of the room Anyone see a problem with doing it this way?

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That look's perfect.
I like her choice of faucets, too.
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:08 PM   #15
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Ok, who drew the dirty pictures on my sinks.
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