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Unread 06-21-2016, 11:36 AM   #1
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We are looking for a tilesetter to join our award winning team. We are located in San Antonio, Texas. There may be some lurkers out there, send me a pm if you are interested. I can give some more info. Pay will be based on experience. Please respond if interested. I will talk to you privately with more details.
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Unread 06-23-2016, 06:43 AM   #2
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I know a 75 year old beat up mud man who lives not too far from you. I'll check to see if he might be interested.
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Unread 06-23-2016, 04:44 PM   #3
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Don't bother. His better half is whipping him with a deadline on some work close to home.
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Unread 06-23-2016, 08:13 PM   #4
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He can do the house work on nights and weekends.
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Unread 06-24-2016, 12:08 AM   #5
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I'm purdy sure he be sleeping' all them nights and weekends.


Best of luck on the search, John. Anyone would be blessed to secure a spot on your team.
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Unread 06-24-2016, 05:53 AM   #6
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Thanks Bubba,
I guess everyone is busy. It has been very difficult to find any takers. We have put adds in warehouses trying to get some attention. I have talked to a couple of guys and invited them to come by, talk and fill out an application. Set up an appointment and no show. I am puzzled why someone would go through the effort, then not call or show up. I am trying to develop a new strategy. Put add in Craigslist. Any other ideas that have been successful to others that i am missing.

John would love to add you to the team. Retired life is too wonderful to get back to sweating and lugging stuff around. Appreciate the offer.


Thanks in advance for your help. JC
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Unread 06-24-2016, 07:33 AM   #7
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I have found that people have learned to live off gov't assistance and do side work for cash. I quit placing ads because they will show up for interviews and drug test only to report back to gov't that they are looking for work. If they show company names and interviews that stay on gov't assistance even without taking a job.

Craigslist will bring in the contractors that look like they sleep under their cargo van. At least in my area.

I always say I train my competition. They learn enough and say they can do it on their own. Some do but most comeback after a year not understanding the amount of BS there is in contracting. They realize working 40-50hrs a week and getting a guaranteed check on Friday is much nicer.

I wish I had a crystal ball with unlimited answer to employee relations but every person is unique on work ethic and motivation. When my business was demanding 30+ workers My sales volumes were high but the bottom line was terrible. Too much capital and stress for what was left. I downsized kept the best and haven't been happier. My guys are great but the contracting world still isn't better.
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Unread 06-24-2016, 08:01 AM   #8
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I had exactly the same experience Kevin, made more money with less "help".
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Unread 06-24-2016, 03:11 PM   #9
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Did a seminar at a distributor last night. Average age of installers...48. Everyone was saying how it is impossible to find a trainable helper who could move up in the trade. No one wants to work. Pretty much everyone was solo. Hope you find someone.
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Unread 06-24-2016, 04:02 PM   #10
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When i finally find someone, and we will, my goal is to reprogram them not retrain them. I am looking for the number two or three man that is overlooked and feels he may be slighted and wants to feel like he is part of the team. If a guy makes it through our paperwork process, then we start the reprogramming.
We do things differently like centering all of our walls, layout is critical, termination and endings of feature strips are super critical are examples of the reprogramming. When a guy is a prospect, i have a questionnaire that identifies his knowledge and ability. Its about twenty questions that identifies his skill level. Most guys come in and tell you what you want to hear. This saves time and aggravation of the BS. We still float all of our walls in showers and tubs. One question is what is a hawk and what is it used for. Weeds out the ones that say they know how to mud walls. You can only image the answers when a guy is not a mudman. Sorry for the Novel. Take care JC
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Unread 06-24-2016, 06:04 PM   #11
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I hate trying to re-train guys that have years of bad habits. I wish you luck, John.
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When a guy is a prospect, i have a questionnaire that identifies his knowledge and ability. Its about twenty questions that identifies his skill level.
I like the idea -- quite fair I would say --
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Is a hawk that thingie used by guys that don't know how to tile crooked walls?

But seriously, I feel your pain. Last time I advertised for an apprentice more than half never showed up for scheduled interviews. To me that's just mind boggling.

Also, lots of outstanding tile setters have never used a Hawk. Mudding walls is so last millenium.
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Luckily I didn't put a stamp on the envelope.
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