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Unread 09-22-2006, 05:11 AM   #1
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I installed 20x20 porcelain tile, smooth and shiny on a bathroom countertop I made. When I was constructing it I made a dire mistake. I used a dry erase marker to label the tile on the good side. When I wiped it off the dye or what ever the carrier is penetrated the tile. I thought porcelain was impervious but I guess not. I have tried bleach, oxi bleach, alcohol, acetone, naphtha, citrus cleaners, and acid to no avail. Any suggestions. mondo
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Unread 09-22-2006, 06:16 AM   #2
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Steam? or replace it.
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Unread 09-22-2006, 06:40 AM   #3
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Hi Mondo,

Nice vanity. I can't see the stain you're talking about in that pic though. I moved this to the Cleaning forum, I think you might get some action here.

DIY'er raises hand.... Teacher? Should mondo use a poultice?
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Unread 09-22-2006, 01:44 PM   #4
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Well I'm certainly no restoration teacher Dave but I do use a poultice. Alcohol is what will cut the stain if anything will. Water & other cleaners just tend to make ink harder to get out.
I get the 91% isopropyl rubbing alcohol from the drug store, not the 70% stuff you probably have in your medicine cabinet. Try scrubbing with that for a little while. When it doesn't do much then I add a little tiny bit of corn starch or flour just so it will stay in one place, then put it on the stain & cover it with something waterproof (because the alcohol evaporates quickly) let it sit overnight. I'm guessing it might be too late after all that other stuff has been used on it.
If you do get it where you want it then you should consider sealing the porcelain because it's been polished (cuts the very top off the fired tile & makes it accept stains easier).
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Unread 09-22-2006, 02:38 PM   #5
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I would try Tom's poultice. And I think others will be along to offer advice, too. I would only like to mention that polished porcelain does stain easily because the polishing (grinding) cuts open the cells on its surface and allows contaminants to enter. The tiny hollow cells in UNpolished porcelain remain closed. Hence, the unpolished is much more stain resistant than the polished.
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Unread 09-22-2006, 02:45 PM   #6
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Hi Mondo

Is the TA3 what you're trying to remove? It appears all the color is gone. I also suggest a poultice. As Tom suggested some denatured alcohol from the hardware store. You can also fold some nonprint white paper towels, soak them with the alcohol, cover the stain, cover the paper towel with plastic, and tape it down to the surface. The next day remove the plastic and let the paper towel dry out. After the paper towel is dry, remove, and hopefully the stain will be lifted.
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Unread 09-22-2006, 05:49 PM   #7
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Ah, I see it now. On my laptop earlier I couldn't see those letters.
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Unread 09-22-2006, 06:07 PM   #8
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I have used WD-40 before on porcelain but kinda doubt it will work since it's down in the pores. Might be worth a try though. I wouldn't spray it on the tile, just spray a little on a rag and wrap the rag around your finger.
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Unread 09-22-2006, 06:32 PM   #9
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Hi Mondo

If none of this advice works, just change your name to Thomas Anderson III, and tell everyone you initial all your work!
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Unread 09-22-2006, 07:08 PM   #10
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I would agree.I find removing some things,like pencil,very difficult on porcelains,the so called impervious tile.Maybe a poultice with toluene, or methylene chloride would work.
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Unread 09-24-2006, 11:06 PM   #11
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Thomas Anthony the 3rd!

That was good!

I dont think anyone said to try this yet but it make sense to me.

Go get some dry erase cleaner, then use that in the method doitright was taking about with the alcohol.

That should work, if not go get some Bacardi 151, sip a little yourself to take the edge off, the try it out, what do you have to lose at this point?!?!?!
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Unread 09-26-2006, 06:05 AM   #12
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well i tried the denatured alcohol poultice for 24 hours and when i took it off this morning the TR3 (top right 3rd tile) looks much darker then the TL1 (top left 1st tile) i set it all up again to go another 24 hours. i am thinking it has lifted the stain closer to the surface and that is why it looks darker???
thanks John and Tom for the info on the polished porcelain tile being more pourous because of the grinding process. a lesson i will not forget. it took me weeks to make the vanity.
thanks to all for your comments. mondo
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