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Old 03-30-2019, 09:26 AM   #3121
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Thanks Mr. Gobis.
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Old 05-01-2019, 09:01 PM   #3122
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Mostly wood frame houses around here and never the room for mud floors so it’s not often I get to float a floor.

But I got to do one here.
Bonded 4-1 with 2 layers of sill gasket around the perimeter for expansion gap.

Slab took a real nose dive in some spots, has to be a good 2.5+ inches of float in some areas. Glad I had the old paddle mixer running for this!

Set the slope for a 40” Schluter tile top linear drain as well.
Will get covered by Ditra Heat Duo (the thermal break version) and kerdi. Planning to do scratch/brown walls too after the plumber does his rough in

Took around 5hrs start to finish.
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Old 05-01-2019, 09:03 PM   #3123
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These work very well for tidying up the mud surface btw
Contractors Direct carries them
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Old 05-02-2019, 06:08 AM   #3124
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Boy do I love seeing a clean mud job John! Looks great
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Old 05-02-2019, 06:41 PM   #3125
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What Justin said.
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Old 05-03-2019, 01:47 PM   #3126
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...and cabinet guys love ya too!! Nice work. Who says mud is dead.
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:47 AM   #3127
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Hands down best trowel for slinging fat mud. Marshalton and Bon make them, “Plastic Texturing Trowel.”
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Old 07-30-2019, 04:04 PM   #3128
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Been keeping an average amount of 80lb scratch and brown bags I've been using per sqft. So if you scratch AND brown your showers and use 80lb bags of mud, multiplying the square footage by .14 or divide square footage by 7 seems to be accurate MOST the time.
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Old 07-30-2019, 04:12 PM   #3129
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Oh and a trick I saw on Instagram when wiring everything was use pre-fab stucco corners. Sure speeds up your niche wiring and you can reverse them and use them on inside corners. It came in handy when I ran my liner up for a corner cinder block bench but I don't fasten into the liner 2' high so a lot of wire in that area is floppy. Well using that stucco corner in reverse hugged the corner really well so the wire didn't bow out while unfastened.
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:09 PM   #3130
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Mud IS King!!!

John (Mr.Bridge) has had this right from the start of this thread, that mud is very rewarding and highly profitable. Picked up some pan jobs, where that is the entire scope of the tilework, the walls are granite/quartz slabs that are templated after the floor is finished. I’m charging $820 for a 40” by 40” to float and set the pan, put in the liner and drain, then paint over the den shield with hydroban. My materials were $85.32 for 1 bag of fat mud, 6 bags of deck mud, a 5’ by 5’ liner, a pale of hydraulic cement (I mix it in for the preslope so that I can do the liner and float the final bed in the same day). I have a stock of rapid thinset ($14.12) in the shop (A pallet and shelf in the corner of my garage). The G.C provides the drain assembly, tile and grout, and hydroban. I’m going back tomorrow to put in the tile (G.C wasn’t able to make it by to drop it off today, which made for a day with focused office time), thus far I have 6 hours counting the trip into Dal for the materials. Mud is good, just keeping at it until I’m good at mud.
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Hi Chris,

I haven't put anything in for money in quite a few years, but what you've got sounds like decent dinero.
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Old 09-18-2019, 01:42 PM   #3132
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...then paint over the den shield with hydroban.
What was the purpose of that step?

Also, what goes in that space between the floor and bottom of the wall board?
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Old 09-18-2019, 06:14 PM   #3133
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I’m happy to be getting the good while it’s here, small jobs are a relief compared to the longer term projects. ‘Specially when they’re good moneymakers. Here’s the final product, ready for templating.

I’ve never tiled direct to Denshield, have always papered and floated over it. I rolled on two coats of hydroban with fabric at the inside corners. The core is gypsum and the hangers put in plenty of nails and screws, I wouldn’t want that to be my only water barrier.

Not sure, I inquired about floating it into plane. Was told the solid surface man handles the job as is, not sure if he wet sets with mud or uses a special adhesive of sorts.
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:57 PM   #3134
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I reckon you don't always know what's going to happen when you do only some of the work.

Seems like a waste of money, though. They could've got the same mileage out of cement board for a lot less than what Densshield costs.

But yeah, I don't like the gypsum core on Densshield. I could handle just the corners and screws, but having that whole edge exposed down low would be too much for me to deal with.
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:15 AM   #3135
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I bet they'll run their stone walls right over that void. In that situation, I wouldn't like the pan liner running up behind the Denshield. The liner folds will bulge the Denshield in the corners like we see so often with CBU.
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