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Old 03-24-2019, 03:38 PM   #31
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Old 03-26-2019, 11:29 AM   #32
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Thanks CX, just seems as every video I watched they all stipulated the bottom first. As always, you guys are the best!
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Old 04-06-2019, 02:55 PM   #33
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So when it comes to change of planes between the wall and floor:
I am planning on tiling the walls first, then the pebble floor. Do I need to leave an expansion gap between the wall tile and the pebble floor when I am grouting the pebbles? If so how the heck would I accomplish that?
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Old 04-09-2019, 07:35 PM   #34
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Old 04-09-2019, 07:49 PM   #35
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I've never thought of it as an expansion joint, but yes, typically leave a grout joint's width gap to be filled with 100% silicone.

And FWIW, I most often do the floor second to last. 1.Walls second course to top. 2. Floor. 3. Walls first course fit to floor. I like the way it looks with wall landing on floor tile. Not keen on pebbles, can't believe they're still a thing, but that's me.
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So when doing the floor, are you leaving a gap between the pebbles and wall when grouting?
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Couple of ways to do that, Mark.

You can make a jig out of wood and spread 1/4" of thinset mortar in the space. I'm sure someone will come along with a picture of what I'm talking about, but basically it's a piece of wood wider than the space is vertically, and notches are cut on top bottom that ride on the tile. The center of it is then (in your case) 1/4" off the wall.

Use a margin trowel to build up some mortar on the wall and rake it down to 1/4" thick with your new, handy tool. Let it dry overnight.

Or, you can use strips of Kerdi or other waterproofing membrane and build them up on the wall 1/4", however many layers that takes.
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Well, this shower is about done thanks to all of the expert advice from you all.

1)Ready to grout (1/8 grout lines between 12x24 porcelain on the walls and fairly flat glass pebbles on the 6 x 4.5' floor). After spending quite a while reading through the forum I realize grout technology is constantly changing and wondering what the current advice would be for my floor in particular. I have been in multiple showers where the dark traffic pattern is evident so would like to use something that never needs sealing to avoid that, BUT dont want to screw it up in the end. Considering spectralock or ultracolor based on the forums but a lot of the posts are older. I have done a couple floors before, but never pebbles and only cementous grouts.
2) How do I mount the brackets for my shower glass and my handheld sprayer since this is a kerdi membrane shower?
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1. For a cement based grout, Mapei UltraColor FA or Laticrete Permacolor. For epoxy, SpectraLock, but those pebbles will eat through a lot of grout and could get pricey. For any grout, just follow instructions to a “T”.

2. Do you have blocking or any framing where hardware will be mounted?
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Yes, the areas where the glass and the sliding hand sprayer will attach are backed up by studs.
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Use the screws that came with the hardware (or coated screws) as if you were just fastening into the wood. Get a diamond tipped bit, drill a hole in the tile slightly larger diameter than screw shank. Squeeze in some silicone or Kerdi Fix before screwing in hardware.
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I thought I read previously in this forum that that will not prevent water infiltration. It will stop water coming in through from the surface of the tile, but it will still infiltrate from the hole in the underlying membrane. Anyone have any opinions on if this really is a problem?
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If itís on a vertical surface it will be fine. On a horizontal surface, donít penetrate the waterproofing.
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