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Unread 09-14-2006, 06:57 PM   #1
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The task ahead of me

Hello my fellow Craftsmen and women,just when you think you've seen all, done all, there comes along the one that you say "yeah great,it will be beautiful". Now you have to figure out how the heck am I going to do this.
The task ahead of me is as follows 16"x16" x3/8"Jerusalum limestone on a 45 in a 36" pattern (4 tiles together ) with 5/8x5/8 Rossa Verona mosaic inlayed around the the 36"grid this is both walls and floor . Floor of course no problem got it installed almost. But the walls now are a different story. Bring it on I'm all ears
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Unread 09-14-2006, 09:54 PM   #2
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Can you post a picture of the flooring that you have done? That way I can see how you layed it out and give you my opinion from there.
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Unread 09-14-2006, 10:06 PM   #3
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If I understand what you're doing, Peter, install the big stones first, little stones later.

I'd rip some nice, straight 1x2s to screw to the walls as vee formation ledger boards to support the four diagonal tiles (yeah, I know the non-sag stuff works, but not for me) in each section. Let'em set up, take off the boards and fill in the spaces with them little bitty tiles.

Make sure you order you some Tilespikes first.

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Unread 09-14-2006, 10:08 PM   #4
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PREFAB_TILT-UP PANEL

Kidding, I'd block out for the lines of mosaic with actual tiles (your 5/8" Rosa) that way you can put one mosaic tile on each corner of the Jeruselum like a spacer. Or use pieces of wood blocks Like 3/4" x3/4" or whatever works for representing the 5/8" plus grout joint on top and bottom.


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Are the mosaics 1 row only around the 4 big tile?
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Unread 09-14-2006, 10:28 PM   #6
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I think it's like the lattice type pattern.
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Unread 09-14-2006, 10:34 PM   #7
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I would do it similar to CX's suggestion but rather use scrap stone
cut to the size of the mosaic to be inserted. Using scraps in smaller
doses will let you clean up the majority thinset along the edges
of the 16's while the pookie is fresh. Let the big tiles set up and insert
the bitty ones later.
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Unread 09-14-2006, 10:39 PM   #8
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I meant using the actual mosaic plus a spacer Jack

Given that it's on a 45.. I think CX is on the right path with the wood.
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Unread 09-14-2006, 11:02 PM   #9
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I always block out the inlay with a wood or stone rip and continue on with the installation of the larger tiles. If you go this route I would suggest allowing for a shim spacer on one side of your spacing rip to avoid your large tiles from binding the rip spacer between them possibly chipping edges when you go to remove them.
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Def. I would do it like CX is a sayin.
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I do it like Giovanni does. We cut the tile or stone spacers about 1/16" short & use the sharp wedgies so they don't pinch on the way out.
You're also gonna have to build up the area under the smaller tile after the big tile are set to get them flush. I like to use Nobleseal with thinset under it for that.
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Unread 09-15-2006, 08:13 PM   #12
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Have you set Jerusalum stone before? It can be a real bear. Make sure that you wipe it often as you go changing the water at least twice a day in you clean up bucket. I would also seal it prior to grouting.
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Tom I use Noble for that too.
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For building up thinner material I will mix a bit of pure cement with the thinset so its slightly putty like and lightly tap them flush with a float strip.
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I like mixing a little portland cement in my thinset too for something like this, it works well. Here's an entryway we did back in June with 1 inch mosics and 16x16 tumbled stone.
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