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Unread 01-13-2013, 10:01 AM   #1
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"Standard" format tiles manufactured from larger tiles.

Seems most, or at least more and more tiles are made this way. You can tell by loking at the back of the tile. And becauce they are cut from a larger blank, more and more of them are semi-rectified on the edges, as recreating a cushioned edge would be dificult I imagine.

So think of a domed piece of 24" x 24", with this high point in the middle. Now cut it into 4 pieces. You now have 4 pieces of tile that are very much "not flat", but now can be installed in a running bond at 50%. Installing them without lippage in a grid is difficult enough.

Current floor of 12" Stonepeak(made in USA) is this way, no fun. Another that comes to mind is Ilva (made in Argentina), whose 6.5 x 13" tiles are so bowed that 1/8" joints cast shadows on a subway wall application.

Anyone else found this to be the case?

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Unread 01-13-2013, 10:05 AM   #2
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The current shower we are on are 12x24 tiles made from much larger tiles. The tiles are pool table flat and have nice crisp corners.

Everyone can make nice stuff, everyone can make junk. Still gotta check what you're going to be working with.
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Unread 01-13-2013, 10:12 AM   #3
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I agree, and cost isn't always an indicator.

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Unread 01-13-2013, 10:37 AM   #4
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I have seen alot of these also.It can be frustrating because of the cut edge.I point it out to customer before setting so they are informed.They seem more upset that they paid good money and cant even get a "whole" tile.Once the tile is set and grouted they dont seem to notice.
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Unread 01-13-2013, 10:56 AM   #5
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had a job where they where 3x1.5 and was set out in a shower running bond
half lap
well me setting @ 1/16ths using broken off TLS starps
had tile over 1/8th out of square with factory edge??????
same thing split from a 3X3 not a happy bunny

as opening up joints making compensation for the tile
made it look like i was at fault
as i don't like tapered grout joints
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It the way things are going. Manufacturing process is cheaper this way, less tooling and molds. As for "whole" tile, those that are going to be cut down do get a indentation to "create" the edges of the tiles prior to cutting of the tiles. I have seen the tiles after being made and prior to the cutting process. The cutting down process is very neat to watch.
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I see a lot of the plank tiles being made that way from some Italian tile companies.
they are actually flat and pretty nice.
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As one of the builders around here is fond of saying: You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

I too am not a fan of these re-cut tiles, especially when they are not square. Often there is no way to tell from a sample board what you'll end up getting.
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I know exactly what you're talking about, Geueze. I worked at a [big...really big] flooring store a few years ago & nearly every tile that was available as a family used larger format tiles cut to smaller (particularly common: the 13's cut to 6.5s and down to 2s)...then, you have at least 2 sides that are nearly rectified & one side that's beveled. The warp factor isn't nearly as big as the beveled/non-beveled side issue...

This may be a pretty weak suggestion, but if you use the small rubber spacers, they can compress a bit toward the tips & still allow consistent grout lines...also, I use the wedges from the LASH system a lot, both on walls and to help with grout line issues...
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