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Unread 10-19-2007, 03:03 PM   #46
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You forgot:

The JBF doesn't approve of your company dress code.

That's the one that would bother me most.

Seriously, Alex, that's exactly the kind of discussion we've had about this in the Board Room every time it's come up, including this time - as we speak.

And it seems to get voted down every time just because there are too many complications, some of which you are describing.

There may be an answer. I haven't seen it yet.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Unread 10-19-2007, 03:21 PM   #47
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Oh well. It was a thought.
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Unread 10-19-2007, 03:31 PM   #48
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and a good thought at that
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Unread 10-19-2007, 03:53 PM   #49
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FWIW, thanks for the lead Bill, I have a meeting tomorrow morning.
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Unread 10-19-2007, 03:54 PM   #50
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Well, I think everyone would like something like that to be available, Bill, in a near-perfect format, but don't nobody know how to make it happen.

Why don't you start a list of your own and see how it works? With your contacts on the various forums, maybe you can figure out a way to make it useful.

And if it does work, we could send people there when they axe about it here?

I dunno.
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Unread 10-19-2007, 04:14 PM   #51
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That might be an idea. I DO know many top notch contractors from around the country who don't come in here. Let me look into it.

Brian-- not a problem. Good luck with it!

Yours is actually one of 5 leads I've sent out this week alone.
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Unread 10-19-2007, 04:28 PM   #52
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cx,

Well put. As I pointed out in post 2, qualifying contractors would be a key issue. Why mess with something that works?

Regular lurkers, members, Tile Pros and other Trade Professionals and GCs such as myself, can identify themselves with the user CP function.

The more someone participates in the JB Forums, the more their location and specialty is known and recognized.
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Unread 10-19-2007, 05:11 PM   #53
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Chuck, you're completely missing why I proposed this.
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Unread 10-19-2007, 05:47 PM   #54
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Bill, we're already on the list, everyone's location is under their name, anyone interested in finding someone local to them only has to look there, then PM them and ask, I've gotten many calls through here, and a few jobs as well.

The problem is, they would have to go through the members area and search for awhile, while a list like your suggesting would be quick and easy.

Let's just start our own.
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Unread 10-19-2007, 06:36 PM   #55
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Thanks Eric for the publicity on the NTCA. Here's a link to the search page with three ways to locate a professional from the Industry. We also have a new listing that will be mailed next month to Architects, Designers, Builders, Distributors, etc. Last week we met in St. Pete for 4 days and on one of those days I had the privilege of sitting in on the Technical committee meeting as a guest. I have to tell ya I'm in awe when ever I'm in a room with all these people that are from every section of our industry. Manufactures of tile, cements, membranes, tools, consultants, tile contractors, etc. These people give of their time to help us and our industry. I wish more people would be involved in the NTCA. Ok, I'll get down off my soap box and go back to my cubbyhole.
Eric, again thanks for your support to the NTCA, I'll talk with you soon.
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Unread 10-27-2007, 09:41 AM   #56
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For what it's worth, I like the overall idea.

But the policing of quality standards is pretty daunting to take on.

Consider: Some companies work full time at trying to rate restaurants, like Zagats. But have you ever gone to a restaurant that was recommended and not had a good experience? I have.

They rate hotels on how many 'stars' they have. But is it possible to have an excellent stay at a hotel with low star rating? I have.

They rate athletes and have baseball games with "All Stars" in them. Have any of those 'stars' made dumb errors during the game? I've seen it.

A lot of what makes a good or bad experience for a tile customer is out of the control of any moderator. One guy is fairly picky and chooses a fussy glass tile that is hard to cut and then rushes the contractor. At the end he isn't very happy. The same contractor does a job for a client who uses an easier material and they praise him to the moon. Same guy, different day.

Even personality of the contractor can matter a lot. Polite behavior, clean work site, on time schedule and overall pretty good quality may make a client rate you higher than extremely good work that is not done on time and rude behavior.

I like the list idea, but can't imagine the additional work of policing it.

Not til JB can afford teams of full time 'tile inspectors' who go out to each site and measure the job after each install. Maybe they could drive little 'tile inspector vans'....like the Geek Squad guys.....

All's we gotta do is chip in $5 per page view when we're surfing here and the budget would be up and running in no time.

Of course, we'll need a swanky new office building and several very blonde receptionists and a private jet for execootive travel......
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Unread 10-27-2007, 09:54 AM   #57
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Or maybe just an approval rating system something similar to ebay's, where you can see not only the percentage of positive feedback, but also how many comments MAKE UP that percentage, as well as being able to go back and read the comments, both negative and positive. 99% of the time, you'll be able to see some kind of pattern emerge, good OR bad.
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