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Unread 02-02-2013, 04:36 AM   #1
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How to install ceramic tile to metal fireplace

Hi Everyone,

I just installed a wood-burning metal fireplace and I'd like to tile the surround so that the metal does not show, even at the edges. I've read all the posts I can find on the forum on this subject, but most of them are several years old and I wondered if methods and materials might have changed.

Some posters advocated attaching lathe to the metal with self-tapping screws, but I'd rather not penetrate the enclosure.

Others recommended using Latacrete 310 directly on the metal, but the manufacturer's website rates it only to 95 degrees, which the fireplace must exceed.

Loctite makes a high temp red rtv silicone for installing ceramic tile in coal fired power plants (rated to 600 degrees), but not sure this would work in residential application.

The stove manufacturer is no help on this, unfortunately. If it makes any difference the metal enclosure is not painted black but is stainless metal.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Unread 02-02-2013, 11:35 AM   #2
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You may want to wait until Monday when Danielle, our resident laticrete rep is back or their tech support is open. I am of the belief that 310 is the preferred adhesive for thisapplication.

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Unread 02-02-2013, 01:12 PM   #3
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Welcome, Neil.

Think you'll find that temperature limit you reference is for the application of the product rather than an in-service limit. The range of 90 to 95 degrees Fahrenheit wouldn't even qualify either the Latipoxy 300 or 310 for exterior applications if that were the service limitation and both are rated for exterior use, I believe.

I would contact Laticrete to see what the upper temperature limits might be, but the 310 is, as Paul pointed out, recommended for your application in general.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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CX is right, black granite applied to a building exterior in any southern climate would easily reach temps over 95ยบ in mid February.
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yeah I would pass on trying to make that happen.
some things are just not meant to be and if you can conjure up some
fancy way, more and likely it wont last too long in the sun & rain down here.
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Thank you everyone for the replies. It is an interior job and it makes sense that the temp rating for during application. I did wonder. I'll wait until tomorrow to get some solid feedback from Laticrete.
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Hi Neil,

As pointed out by CX the 95 degree temperature you had referred to is the maximum temp during installation.

Once installed and cured, LATAPOXY 310 can withstand a constant temperature of 140 degrees.

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Neil, I've done exactly what you are trying to accomplish. I used a refractory cement that I'd purchased from an online chimney supply store. Forget the name but you should be able to find one easy enough. This refractory cement had very similar properties to mastic but only comes in grey color. It is specifically designed to adhere stone to metal surfaces in high-temp installations. Did this job two years ago and it's still holding strong. I see the customer 2-3 times a week and he'd definitely let me know if there was a problem. FWIW the tile was a glass/natural stone (light stone) mosaic.
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Neil, I would love to hear what you ended up with and how it went! I'm installing tile (2" hexagon) around a Napoleon direct-vent fireplace with zero-clearance. The tile will mostly be on backer board, except for the edges where it's the metal of the fireplace. Right now it's looking like my best bet is a high heat silicone like Rutland RTV, but really eager to hear if you went with the Laticrete 310, refractory cement, or silicone.

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