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Unread 02-26-2005, 10:53 AM   #1
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Giving Back - Tile Tools Program....

Hi Folks,

Some of you may have seen Tom Hulse's post for a tile layout calculator. It works really well but requires you to have Microsoft Excel.

I decided to write (in Visual Basic 6) a small program that would be able to be used even if you don't have Excel. I've posted an initial version of it on my own website.

I'd like to add more functions to it. To do so, I need to get some input from folks as to what features would be most useful. Maybe calculating how much mud for a pan, how many tiles of a given size based on room dimensions, etc.

Give it a try if you'd like. The download is small and the proram is quick to install/uninstall.
Here's the link to my site...www.pondermatic.com
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Unread 02-26-2005, 10:58 AM   #2
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Sweet idea Joe. Would you like to work together on a perl or php cgi version so it could live at the John Bridge site?
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Unread 02-26-2005, 11:31 AM   #3
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I just downloaded your version and will check it over Joe
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Sure Dave. I'm pretty comfortable in VB but have dabbled with perl and php. I'll have to find some time to brush up on those skills.
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Seems to work well Joe.
Possible improvements.
Print feature (i had to copy to wordpad to print)
Columnar spacing rather than commas.(easier to read)
Option for single space,dble space,triple space and quad spacing
for gridding purposes
6x6 tile would be 4tile or quad spacing
8x8 would be three tile spacing etc
Either that or the option to Highlight the numbers at dbl triple or quad for gridding numbers and you still have the single spacing to instantly know cut sizes.
Highlighted grids by color.for example
13" tile 1/4" grout spacing
Grid is a 2 tile x 2 tile grid
highlights would be
13 1/4 -
26 1/2 -
39 3/4 -
53 -
66 1/4 -
79 1/2 -
92 3/4 -
106 etc etc.
These could print Blue rather than Black
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Todd,

1. Printing - yep, I hadn't gotten to this yet. It will be one of the first things to add.

2. Columnar spacing - I'll incorporate a grid or spreadsheet control into the program. This will make the data layout much easier on the eyes!

3. Option for grid spacing - Excellent suggestion! I'll work on that shortly.

Thanks for checking it out. Your comment about not having Excel was what motivated me in the first place.
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I've got the feeling you can make it more polished in vb. I'll have a look at it the next time I'm on a winbox.
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Dave,

I've thought about jumping on the RealBasic bandwagon. VB -like but allows you to compile for Mac, Linux or Windows! Nothing like writing code once and distributing to multiple platforms. I also thought about going with Java, using the NetBeans IDE but that seems like too much work for me.
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It was great,I had my cheat sheet written on cardboard runout to over 800 inches for the job i am on.I had to check your math
Its going to be great once you put some spit polish to it i can tell.
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I like it very much. Looks like there might be space for one more link on the bar. "course I'm on a 19 in. monitor.
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fractions in x/32" doesn't work..thanks Kevin Walker!

Yep. You and Todd with the 19" inch monitors.

Thanks Kevin for pointing out a bug, fractions in 32nds of an inch don't appear to be working.
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Hi Joe

Thanks for taking the time to assemble something like this!

Other ideas for the professional as well would be:

1. bullnose dimensions to calculate quantity (pieces), and price per piece/total
2. room dimensions to calculate square footage quantity, and price per square foot/total
3. enter lineal feet, dimension of tile, and number of rows, to calculate listello quantity, and price per piece/total
4. tile dimensions, spacing (every tile or every other tile) for keys
5. entries to calculate labor by the square foot, lineal foot, hour, or day
6. Other suggestions for a full blown practical estimating program

NOTE: The intention would not be to create a free shareware program, but something to derive income from, for whoever contributes. I am constantly creating updates in my excel spreadsheet to do all of the above. I like the true programed format.

Am I out in left field for the need here? Or, just asking too much?

Hi Tom

See what you started!
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Good ideas John K. I'm working on this application slowly right now due to my schedule at work.

I do like the suggestions I've gotten so far. I'll clean up the intial version and add a few of the options suggested.

My intent is to distribute the program as freeware. If I like how the program develops I may turn out a "pro" version. I think that is jumping the gun a bit at this point though.
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Hi Joe

Had to ask!
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If you turn out a Pro version,I would certainly offer my services to Field test it for ya
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