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Unread 02-10-2014, 09:06 PM   #1
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What hell is this?

Ok, so I'm not up to speed on tile trends and haven't run across this dreck before, but I'll darn sure remember it!

Has a surface texture that feels like 150 grit sandpaper and a kind of moderate slate pattern as well. What I didn't stop to think about was how this texture would hang onto grout, (Permacolor Mushroom), it's in all the crannies and sponge is largely ineffective at removing it.

First part I used a Scotchbrite pad next day...of course it's difficult to see the grout embedded all over the tile surface when wet, but sticks out like sore thumb when dry. Second go-round I used the Scotchbrite same day being careful of digging into grout lines. If it was any easier, it wasn't by much.

Probably doubled my grouting time...ouch!

Is there some technique I need to learn or is this the nature of the beast?
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Unread 02-10-2014, 09:21 PM   #2
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2 words....Grout Release.
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Unread 02-11-2014, 12:33 AM   #3
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Aha! A little Googling and that makes perfect sense...thanks.

Any particular flavor you'd recommend?
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Unread 02-11-2014, 03:19 AM   #4
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Any grout release will do. We roll it on for big areas. Goes fast and keeps it from getting in the joints.
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Peter, make sure you do a test area with the grout release check that the grout release comes off the the tile once grouted.
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Ok, so I'm not up to speed on tile trends and haven't run across this dreck before, but I'll darn sure remember it!

Has a surface texture that feels like 150 grit sandpaper and a kind of moderate slate pattern as well. What I didn't stop to think about was how this texture would hang onto grout, (Permacolor Mushroom), it's in all the crannies and sponge is largely ineffective at removing it.

First part I used a Scotchbrite pad next day...of course it's difficult to see the grout embedded all over the tile surface when wet, but sticks out like sore thumb when dry. Second go-round I used the Scotchbrite same day being careful of digging into grout lines. If it was any easier, it wasn't by much.

Probably doubled my grouting time...ouch!

Is there some technique I need to learn or is this the nature of the beast?
Peter, did you follow the instructions for Permacolor, and do a second cleaning three hours later? It is very difficult to remove the haze the next day.
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If you have some already grouted, you might try scrubbing with vinegar, then rinse with clean water.
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Greg, I did the 2nd wash as prescribed the first go round, but this isn't haze, it's grout particles hanging in the surface texture. On the second half I got on it quickly after floating and stayed on it till I was satisfied with results.

Near the end of what was probably about 3 hours I had my shop vac blowing across floor so I it would dry surface and show me where to scrub with Scotchbrite. Scrub, sponge, scrub, sponge, scrub, sponge...you get the picture.

Lesson learned. This one goes in the "learn by experience" bag. Grout release next time!
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Davy, I did try vinegar. Believe me, I was trying all of the tricks in my bag, but lacked experience and knowledge on this one. On the bright side, I'll know what I'm looking at next time and know better how to approach and subsequently cost out my proposal.

The price of education, I guess.
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Sureklean 600

You might try Sureklean 600. It is an acid by Prosco. You need to be careful as it is a fairly strong acid. Wet the surface before using it. It may help you clean those small pits. Good Luck. Again with any acid read the instructions first. Ventlation and safety are foremost. John Cox
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Grout easy

I use this stuff on almost every job. It sure helps!

http://www.aldonchem.com/pr-grout-easy.htm

I've also used Nano scrub to get rid of grout haze the next day.
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