Ceramic Tile Advice Forums - John Bridge Ceramic Tile

Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Forum on the Internet


Advertiser Directory
JohnBridge.com Home
Buy John Bridge's Books

Go Back   Ceramic Tile Advice Forums - John Bridge Ceramic Tile > Tile & Stone Forums > Tile Forum/Advice Board

Sponsors


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Unread 11-21-2020, 12:01 PM   #1
fogtown
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Moss Beach, CA
Posts: 28
Best Grout for “painted” marble backsplash tiles?

Have a backsplash installed with “Artisan by Stone Impressions Sanza” tile , spear to be painted white marble 6x6 .
Want a stain resistant grout , wondering what to use on the 1/8” joints ? Prism, Fusion, Flexcolor CQ?? Surface finish seems fairly tough but scratches .
Any suggestions?
Attached Images
   
__________________
Jon

Last edited by cx; 11-21-2020 at 12:06 PM. Reason: Add Link
fogtown is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Unread 11-21-2020, 12:08 PM   #2
cx
Moderator emeritus
 
cx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Boerne, Texas
Posts: 92,669
You are permitted to add links to such products, Jon. I've added what I think is the proper link to your tile.

Not much technical information available on that site, but best I can tell that is some sort of printed face on a natural stone, which I have never personally encountered. I would certainly want to make a test board to test whatever grout I selected. That surface sounds like it could be relatively delicate. I see no manufacturer recommendation for grout or setting material.

My opinion; worth price charged.
__________________
CX

Y'ALL NEW VISITORS READ THIS HERE!
cx is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-21-2020, 02:33 PM   #3
Lazarus
Texas Tile Contractor
 
Lazarus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Beaumont, Texas
Posts: 8,341
I like Prism for this type of installation.....
__________________
Laz...

“I came, I saw, she conquered."
The original Latin seems to have been garbled.”
Lazarus is online now   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-22-2020, 10:32 AM   #4
fogtown
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Moss Beach, CA
Posts: 28
How abrasive is prism? Similar to Flexcolor?

In the specs for prism it warns of scratching, will have to do a test but these tiles appear to have a film applied of a clear over the pattern paint that doesn’t peel easily but after cuts can be peeled away from the edge - I’d like to use prism but not sure how abrasive it is ? “Some ceramic, glass, metal, marble or stone tiles can be scratched or damaged by the lightweight aggregate filler. Perform a test on a small area prior to use. Polyblend® NonSanded Grout may be appropriate for joints up to 1/8" or for tile not suited for sanded grout.“-Jon
__________________
Jon
fogtown is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-23-2020, 10:11 AM   #5
fogtown
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Moss Beach, CA
Posts: 28
Seal these?

I called the distributor/manufacturer and they suggested sealing the face but couldn't recommend any grouts specifically ( didn't seem very technically oriented IMHO). . Seems like the face is a clear film coating with the design on it- don't see how sealing that is going to be successful. Probably just peel off or build up a messy film. Surface beads water out of the box. Would one apply sealer to this tile?
__________________
Jon
fogtown is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-23-2020, 10:14 PM   #6
Tool Guy - Kg
Moderator -- Wisconsin Kitchen & Bath Remodeler
 
Tool Guy - Kg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Oak Creek, WI
Posts: 22,580
Hi, Jon.

It sure sounds like the manufacturer hasn’t done their homework. Best thing to do is experiment with a test board. If it helps you weigh your decision, Prism uses smaller, more rounded particles of glass and fine aggregate sand instead of relatively larger, more jagged sand as used in other grouts. So, if you desire to use sanded grout, Prism is less likely to scratch than typical sanded grouts.

__________________
Tonto Goldstein... but my friends call me Bubba

Help an awesome summer camp!
Tool Guy - Kg is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-25-2020, 11:54 AM   #7
fogtown
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Moss Beach, CA
Posts: 28
What Sealer??Tested Prism and Ultracolor, used Prism

These grouts are similar, went with Graystone Prism which didn't scratch but maybe micro-polished the surface a little duller? It's workability is like a traditional cement grout, but didn't seem to finish that smooth considering small aggregate size- or maybe I overworked it? The tile supplier wants it sealed- they said the coating on the marble tiles is 3 coats of sealer over the design. They suggested something like Sealer Choice Gold, Bulletproof , 511 and a few others. For Prism Custom states: "use a ph neutral water base sealer such as Sealer's Choice Gold or TileLab SurfaceGuard". Wondering what sealer would adhere to the cured sealer on the tile face the best- don't want peeling ?
Attached Images
   
__________________
Jon
fogtown is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-26-2020, 01:27 AM   #8
fogtown
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Moss Beach, CA
Posts: 28
Used Sealer’s Choice Gold -

Seemed to work , added a little glow to the tiles and the Prism soaked a bit up .
Attached Images
 
__________________
Jon
fogtown is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-26-2020, 01:50 AM   #9
Tool Guy - Kg
Moderator -- Wisconsin Kitchen & Bath Remodeler
 
Tool Guy - Kg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Oak Creek, WI
Posts: 22,580
As far as you wondering about the rough finish of the grout: Typicality, you pack the joints overly full with grout, immediately “squeegee” the excess off with a clean grout float tilted up at 90 degrees to the tile face (but struck across the tiles at an angle to the grid of grout joints), allow the grout to slightly firm up, “shape” the grout with a slightly damp sponge wiped in continuous circles, then finally wiped clean with a clean sponge at an angle to the joints. But it appears that the joints weren’t packed with enough grout to begin with...or the grout float wasn’t clean enough when used to squeegee away the excess and caused too much grout to be pulled from the joint.

__________________
Tonto Goldstein... but my friends call me Bubba

Help an awesome summer camp!
Tool Guy - Kg is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Stonetooling.com   Tile-Assn.com   National Gypsum Permabase


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Kitchen backsplash with 2x4 polished marble tiles French_guy Tile Forum/Advice Board 15 03-26-2018 02:46 PM
Grout dried on backsplash tiles byteless Cleaning, Restoration and Sealing 18 01-24-2013 06:21 PM
Caulk instead of grout on marble backsplash? mcnejef Tile Forum/Advice Board 5 06-03-2009 01:57 PM
Darkening grout/tile on tumbled marble backsplash (pre-grout sealant used) NovicesRus Cleaning, Restoration and Sealing 1 03-13-2008 09:24 AM
Darkening grout/tile on tumbled marble backsplash (pre-grout sealant used) NovicesRus Tile Forum/Advice Board 2 03-12-2008 08:57 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:29 AM.


Sponsors

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2018 John Bridge & Associates, LLC