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Unread 08-09-2009, 04:06 PM   #16
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Jake, for materials such as CBU you really wanna look up the installation instructions for the particular backer board you intend to use and follow them carefully. They have similarities, but they have differences as well. You gotta get yourownself familiar with the requirements for the one you're fixin' to use.

If you plan to use a surface-applied waterproofing, you really, really wanna do the same thing for that product as well. Read, read, read, follow, follow, follow. Some of the instructions can be a bit vague or confusing. If so, you read some more and then axe, axe, axe for clarification here.

You would generally finish completely with the installation of the wall board, including any filling and taping of joints, before you start any part of the liquid-applied waterproofing application.

I see only one of your "few photos." You can generally load several per post using the Manage Attachments feature. And you can usually go back using the Edit feature and add one or more if you want.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Unread 08-09-2009, 09:31 PM   #17
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CX: I had to make the pics smaller to get them loaded. The CBU is Durarock.

Looks like I'm filling and taping, then adding the Redgaurd, then

FINALLY da tile....

Woo Hoo, close to finally being done...
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Unread 08-09-2009, 09:36 PM   #18
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It was suggested by the guy at the local tile store where I'm buying my tile that I use 1/8 spacers on the 6 x 6 tile. I was gonna originally use 12 x 12 but again suggestede that for a rental unit, I should use 6 x 6. He said they set better and weigh less so there is less chance of them falling and hitting a tenant on the head... Thoughts????
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Unread 08-09-2009, 09:51 PM   #19
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Jake, 4- 6x6 tiles weight the same as 1 -12x12 or real close to it. I don't understand his thinking, if it's installed right, it won't fall off no matter what size the tile is.

The spacer size doesn't matter, that's up to you and what type of tile it is. Some tiles have small lugs on the edge that when butted together will leave a small joint. Some tiles don't.
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Unread 08-10-2009, 05:09 AM   #20
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Davy... Not sure what his thoughts are but I'd guess that each 6 x6 weighs 3/4 less than one 12 x 12. I understand that if it's installed correctly they will never fall off. Being a novice at this, and it being a rental unit, I was going to use the 12 x12 for a couple simple reasons.

1) Less grouting to do, which means less maintainence, as we all know tenants don't care for things the way owners do.

2) It was less expensive to purchase, as I found 12 x 12 for about .80 cents per sq. foot. The only problem I've found is that on the "LESS" expensive, I can't get bull nose and moldings to match. As I told him, I need those because of the way the shower lays out, I'd need them to finish. Perhaps that is why he "ALSO" suggested 6 x6.

But I will certainly ask him..
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Unread 08-10-2009, 05:23 AM   #21
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I think what Davy is alluding to is, once the walls are covered in tile, it is all the same square footage, size of the tile doesn't matter as far as square footage is concerned. It's all gonna weigh about the same whether you use 6x6, or 24x24. Larger tile=less grout=less grout maintenance.

You might wanna think twice about following any mechanical "advice" from the guy at the tile store.
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Unread 08-11-2009, 08:25 AM   #22
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Got it, I think I'll stick with the 12 x 12 if I can find it with bull nose and molding pieces.

Another question, I'm ready to tape and fill the gaps and seams on the durarock.
I'm guessing I fill the gaps, then tape over them and then add a very thin layer of thin set again over the tape, then Redgaurd the entire stall.

Is this process correct??
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Oh yea, 1 more thing. What type of texture do I want on the thin set.
I have a power mixer and a 5 gallon pail. I'd bet I don't want it too soupy, but more like a good bowl of oatmeal..

Whadda ya say???
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Jake,

Start with mixing it according to the manufacturer's instructions. I'm not suggesting you do the whole bag a t once but keep the portions correct. A thinset I used recently was 5 liters of water to the 50 lb. bag. Made it real simple to mix up 20 lbs. Put the bag on my bathroom scale and weighed it a couple of times as I was pouring the powder into the 2 liters of water. Make sure your mixing device is either variable speed or less than 500 RPM...or is it 300? You don't want to spin it too fast as it will entrain air into the mixture.

Make sure you mix it long enough...I go for more than 5 and usually end up around ten minutes. At that point you can judge if the texture is correct. It should be like creamy peanut butter IMHO. Oatmeal has lumps and I don't want any in my thinset.

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It's 300, Brian. Slower is better.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Jake,

Are you going to have any issues regarding water-proofing around that window?
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