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Unread 12-15-2010, 02:21 PM   #1
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Cold weather installs

Down here we rarely have to worry about a 40 degree temp, but the last few days have been near the 30 mark. Luckily I had indoor jobs that did not slow us down to bad, who am I kiddin,it sucked.
Anyway, the question. What exactly is the reason for not setting below 40.
Is it the cure, expansion, or just the product itself that gets hindered.
There may be a couple questions asked after the initial answer, I'm just curious of the answer.
And how the heck do you northerners do it?
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Unread 12-15-2010, 02:30 PM   #2
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The chemical reaction, hydration, is slowed by temperatures under 50 degrees, and comes to a near halt as you approach 32. After 32 degrees, no hydration can occur since there will be no free water to react with the Portland cement.
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Yeah, us Florida boys don't experience this often.

I do remember tiling a patio in 1997, and coming back the next morning to find the thinset very soft. I found out by walking on the tiles, and they started moving about.

That was my first experience with cold temperature installation, as most tile installs are interior where it doesn't get as cold.
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I have bills to pay, so where I live I have to do installs in temperatures lower than 30 about 4 mos out of the year. Most of the time the houses have heat so the outside temperature isn't such a big deal (besides mixing mud/cutting etc...)

When on new construction w/o heat though, I keep a space heater and fan in the trailer to try and keep warm temps on my freshly set tile. I definately wouldn't go grout at 7 a.m. after finishing setting the night before, but for the most part the system works.
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We got some cold weather today. I was mixing 317 up outside it was really good, then once inside it would thaw and become very soupy. Temp was around 17 with wind chills today. tomorrow we are tiling without a saw, its too cold to set one up. Nippers and grinders for everything.
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Hmmm,

We had lunch today setting next to the customers ceement pond. It was quite nice in our tee shirts, aside from the glare off the water.

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I remember reading something about using latex additive instead of water for installations below 50*, anybody know what I'm talking about?

Rick, why don't you use a bucket heater in the pan?
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Found it: http://www.laticrete.com/portals/0/tds/tds175.pdf
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Cold weather is no fun. Brrr!!! Was 5 degrees when I got to the job this morning with a -6 windchill. Travertine backsplash, so out came the wet saw. Took almost an hour and a half to get the pump and water supply line thawed out to make cuts. Tiles were freezing on the tray top. I was set up in the garage. It was warmer than outside but still below freezing. Be fun to see how long it takes to get it running in the morning.

Any warm weather tile guys need experienced help? Have truck and tools.
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Forget that! I would either pull around a shed and set up in it or in the customer's house like Gooze does. What are you guys tiling, barns?
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I actually have one of these to warm the garage.

Eric,

don't think i need a saw for this job pretty simple layout.
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Took almost an hour and a half to get the pump and water supply line thawed out to make cuts. Tiles were freezing on the tray top. I was set up in the garage. It was warmer than outside but still below freezing. Be fun to see how long it takes to get it running in the morning.
Greg it sucks but you gotta fully drain all the supply lines at the end of the day. I always take mine off and blow them out, then hang them vertically in the trailer. My issue with the cold weather is the water will freeze in the lines in between cuts. Then you hafta take it off and soak it in the bucket of hot water sittin there just for this purpose. Is it June yet?
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Levi,

the trick to keep the water from freezing in the lines between cuts is to plug the pump into a separate outlet and not the saw outlet. I use a 3way for my cords so I plug the pump into one of the outlets. That way its always running and wont freeze
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Ha Ha just brought my Felker in the house, so it's not frozen in the morning, Looks good sitting in the kitchen.
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Never even thought of that, thanks Rick
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