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Unread 09-04-2010, 03:09 PM   #1
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back splash switch outlets

I completed a job last week for a feller that has an issue. Before I start this job took a week to do and was one of the toughest pain in the ars's we had in while, hopscotch diagonal 800 + with a backsplash where the glass was 1/8th and the tile was 3/8 thick. We got it level and it came out fine and everyone was happy as a clam, I didn't know clams get happy but it all went like planned.
A few days after the job was done we get call he wants to have a piece of tile under the back side cabinet void filled until it could no longer be seen from his knees I guess, NO PROBLEM. We went out and completed the ten minute fix, BUT while we was there he was doing his own inspections and found we used a drywall screw to replace the existing switch screws due to the reach, you know. He was having a fit and was very upset that we did not use a machined screw for this. I have done 100's and never have had this issue, all of what we did in that guys house and all he could find is that. There was no telling him it was just fine, there was no reason for that application to be used in our industry.
I am not really looking for a answer here I'm just sharing a thought and experience, it's done and he will live with it I guess.
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Unread 09-04-2010, 03:25 PM   #2
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He must be an Engineer!
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Unread 09-04-2010, 03:25 PM   #3
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Was he a lawyer or engineer?
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Unread 09-04-2010, 03:26 PM   #4
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Dave, you have worked for both also?
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Unread 09-04-2010, 03:42 PM   #5
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A buddy of mine installs Dish TV. He put a dish on a new customers house the other day and the owner got all pissed off. I'm not sure how the guy thought he was going to pick up signal but this guy got irate with my friend. Bunch of wackos out there.

With that said though, we always used the same kind of screw but just longer on the outlets. Carried them in a special container in the van.
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Unread 09-04-2010, 03:55 PM   #6
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Unread 09-04-2010, 05:33 PM   #7
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6/32 1 1/4" machine screws. I buy 'em by the 100 box, will last about a year depending on how many outlet's you're tiling around.

Costs about $5 for the box.

If you are using drywall screws you're a hack. Sorry.

Think about if you took your car to get new tires and the "mechanic" used improper lug nuts and just mashed them in all cross threaded with the impact gum, ruining the lugs.

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Unread 09-04-2010, 05:43 PM   #8
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I used a drywall screw once, the home owners father came by (an electrician) and reemed me out for it. that was back about 10 years in my beginning, but i never forgot it.

We all know it will work just fine, forever, but....
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Unread 09-04-2010, 05:59 PM   #9
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Scott- look, I'm not trying to be a d***, but..... ok, I'm a d***.

By the same token I could tile a shower with mastic on hardibacker......

Joe- the funny thing about that story is that usually it's me reaming out the electricians for using the drywall screws.

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Unread 09-04-2010, 06:12 PM   #10
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This is one area I think I have to step it up. I've often (on jobs I'm working directly with the homeowner) just told them they need to pick up new longer screws. If I'm subbed, I let 'em hang for the electrician's return.

Think I should go pick up a box of longer screws and be a problem solver instead.
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Think I should go pick up a box of longer screws and be a problem solver instead.


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Unread 09-04-2010, 06:37 PM   #12
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Dang I do the same thing, I have always just left em hanging for the sparky. Guess I should go buy a box too
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Unread 09-04-2010, 06:44 PM   #13
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I use the machined screws also, except for the occasional rare stripped out hole. If it's my own job I screw alla devices back in, if it's not, I don't, unless it's just a couple.

I have also seen electricians use drywall screws.
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Unread 09-04-2010, 07:13 PM   #14
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OK then I am in the wrong here and have been for nearly 15 years without a single problem. I do respect the info of those who do use the machined screws, but I have looked for them and never found box's or bags more than 10 at a time, maybe I will just research harder. I can change my ways and do often depending what direction needs to be taken.
I have been using the fine thread 1 1/4's.
Now as for hack comment using a fine thread screw which is similar to the machined is nothing like mastic in a shower, thats not even in the same ball park, dam Gueuz ya had a bad man?
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Unread 09-04-2010, 07:29 PM   #15
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Scott, I've bought mine at an electrical supply store before.
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