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Unread 05-10-2012, 04:08 PM   #3106
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If this was a contest... I might just have the winner...
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Unread 05-10-2012, 04:53 PM   #3107
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This was just built about a month ago... nice basket weave stone mosaic floor.
Curb-less shower with no waterproofing... no pitch... CB screwed to plywood, no thin-set. Heat-mat ran into shower area... the lead went up the inside shower wall to a thermostat in the bedroom. There was more pitch in the main floor area outside of the shower... water pooled where you see the white towel. The whole room was out of square, level. Old house but the hack/builder had an empty down to studs and open floor joist... no excuse.
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Unread 05-10-2012, 08:43 PM   #3108
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I hope it was at least a second floor shower that leaked into the first and ruined a ceiling! Wood looks to be in good shape. Failed too fast for any rot to occur? How old/how many uses before problems occured?

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Unread 05-11-2012, 01:52 AM   #3109
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I'm thinking once they noticed the water running out of the shower and pooling up in the middle of the bathroom, they new something was wrong.
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Unread 05-11-2012, 06:56 AM   #3110
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You are correct Gueuze... in that ripping it out so soon after install, there was no major water problems. The wood in the curb was wet and there is a decent size area where the plywood's top layer is dark and damp. It is second floor but the few uses had not caused a problem in the ceiling... yet. It was just a matter of time.

The black dots highlighted the "out of square"... nothing was flat especially where they set over the heat-mat. That mosaic pattern has a basket-weave look... this install had the texture of a basket.... many of the small black accent dots were 1/2 to fully covered with grout.

Hank is also correct in that the pool outside the shower forced the issue on the need for correction.
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Unread 05-13-2012, 11:22 PM   #3111
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I got a call from one of the owners of the local tile stores if I could inspect a job that he sold the tile for. The tilesetter installed 12" x 24" porcelain on 50% offset with 1/16" grout joints. I expected some lippage due to natural warpage in the tile. Then he texted me this picture.
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Unread 05-13-2012, 11:52 PM   #3112
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Isaac, Some of the people I work for pay extra for that look.
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Unread 05-14-2012, 12:49 AM   #3113
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I think i have seen that exact tile - with the same cuping in a shower I was asked to look at. In my case the tile was purchased by the owner and set by her tile guy who showed her 2 pcs face to face before he started. I will look up the brand and name to see if it is.
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If the first joint doesnt trip you the next one will.

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wow, that's even worse then the Florida hacks !
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The floor looks like it was woven.
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Unread 05-14-2012, 06:07 PM   #3117
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Considering how badly warped the tile appears to be, I would say that the installer did a pretty good job.

What I'd like to know is who's idea it was to go with the 50% offset and the tight joint, the salesperson or the homeowner.

I'm not saying that the installer is up to date about the "newer" TCNA spec "side longer than 15 inches....." thing, but design is usually dictated by others than the installer. For all we know the installer didn't want to do it and was browbeaten into doing it from those wielding a checkbook as a cudgel.

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Unread 05-14-2012, 07:46 PM   #3118
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That's a super-nice cut-in for the light fixture. Square, round, it's all the same, eh?
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Unread 05-15-2012, 05:32 AM   #3120
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Brian, you find all the great pics. A little bit of caulk will fix that fixture, nobody will ever notice it.... WINK WINK...
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