Master Bath

[btw574]

My friend is more worried that he will not warranty the install because he does not like Redguard or use it. He thinks the guy just wants to make more money. He is going to get another opinion

[Houston Remodeler]

Its about the warranty. If the new guy doesn't want to warranty over the old work I wouldn't blame him, neither would I. BUT if he doesn't warranty his work in any case, then send him packing.

[muskymike]

Where ya located Brian? Too bad the guy bailed.

[coping skills]

It is about the warranty. I believe your friend will have a difficult time finding anyone who will warrant their work when done over someone else's.

And it is too bad the guy bailed. It seems to happen pretty frequently.

There will always be a job for honest, ethical people, and especially those who do good work.

[Muddman]

I would want to tear it out as well. I would be more wary of the guy that comes in and just assumes the guy who bailed did it right to begin with.

[btw574]

I was looking at this shower kit on line and would like some input if anyone has used it. It is by Fin-Pan but the only thing I am not sure about is that the connection between the panels and shower base is just a bead of sealant. Do these sealants they use last say 20 years or will they break down over time and start leaking at the joint. I looks similiar to the Wedi system I have seen online
http://www.flooringsupplyshop.com/sh...48-x-1402.html

[btw574]

Got my first quote back on a prefab shower base.
The base is 60X44 and the drain is off center.
The first unit was a Fin-Pan Preformed shower pan at $1500 and the second was the Fin-Pan ProPan shower floor system that was $1056 and the same company gave me a price of $1452 for the Fin-Pan Propan and Propanel, curb and all other product needed to install.
Is anyone fimiliar with the Propan and Propanel board. I do think the $1500 for the Preformed is just crazy.
I have also request a price on a ProVa but I am still waiting on them.
They did list a 48X60 tray but there was no info for the offset drain location.
I looked at Kerdi system but they have a very limited number of sizes for their pans. They do say you can fill in around the pan with mortar but would this not be an area that cracks could form between the mortar on foam tray.

[btw574]

Well I think I have made my decision and will be getting the ProVa 48X60 foam pan and getting a Kerdi-Drain as the reviews I have read on the ProVa drain have not been very good. I do have a question on the drain and that is when you set the drain what actually holds the drain down. Is the back of the drain lined with some type of fleece backing like Kerdi that the mortor holds to. It seems to me only other thing that seems to be holding it down would be the layer of thinset and tile. I have never seen one
I am just wondering if say someone were to slip and fall in the shower could them landing on the shower floor pop the drain free from the tray.

[Houston Remodeler]

Brian,

I am not sure what you are asking, but the kerdi drains can't come loose without a hammer and some severe effort.

[btw574]

Well decision has been made on the pan. I will be doing a mud pan with a kerdi drain. I will be using hydro ban to waterproof.
I have the drain on order and will be having my 4X8 sheets on Durock next gen set for delivery on wednesday.
I want to use laticrete thinset for setting the tile but which one 254 platinum or 255 multimax. The both cost the same from what I was priced.
The last question I was going to use 209 floor mud but how many bags would I need for a pan that is going to be 60" X 44". I plan at setting the drain at a height of 1 1/4" above the floor.

[dhagin]

Good choice, you won't be sorry.

What tile and what size are you planning for the walls? Both 254 & 255 are premium mortars, but have different qualities.

For the floor mud, check out the "calculator" below. Add the sand + cement weights, or sand mix + sand weights, and divide by bag weight of 209.

http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/...ad.php?t=38051

[dhagin]

Double check my arithmetic, but seems you'll need about 230#. Round up to the next bag.

[btw574]

The floor will be 2X2. The walls will have a combination of 12X12, 6X6 and a mosaic band around the shower.
I was going to use 254 but I was told by a person at the supply place that
255 was easier to use and had a longer pot time
I did plan on mixing smaller batches so I can take my time on setting tiles to make sure everything is lining up.

[dhagin]

Either one is fine. 255 has anti-sag properties if mixed properly, which will help when tiling the walls. Both are very sticky, so keep things cleaned up as you go with clean water and a sponge, rags, little paint brush, etc... or it'll be a bear to clean up later.

...once either gets on clothes, it don't come off...

[btw574]

Now confused on thinset. I was at the supply place and I thought I was set for the thinset to use when 4XLT was recommeded as a do all type thinset easier to work with and mix over 255 and was better for hanging wall tile than 254. Help me choose