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Unread 06-04-2019, 10:47 AM   #16
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Harder to screed and not as permeable as 5:1.
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Unread 06-04-2019, 06:46 PM   #17
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Teddy, we did have a mixer.

Like Chris said, when you make it too rich, it's harder to cut with the straight edge. It can also ball up in a drum mixer which is what I use. I've found that 5 to 1 works well. If you want it harder on top, let it set and skim coat the top with thinset.

As I pull a section at a time, about two ft or as far as I can reach, I slick down the mud with the trowel. Troweling it down gives it a smooth surface and keeps it from eroding so easily the next day when walking on it. Heavy traffic can still cause it to erode so in that case you may have to protect it.
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Unread 06-04-2019, 11:30 PM   #18
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I planned to make my mud bed with 5/1 but I didn't know topping mix was richer because it says deck mud. I took a 3 bag shortcut for my better bench. And as I worked the top near the final slope it did get a wetness to it but I had my slope mostly there and I put kerdi on it with even inside and outside premade corners so permability should not matter. But I know better now. It was tricky to get it to stick to the metal front of bench and mid span support which was 45 degrees off of upside down. That was real tricky. I wonder if 5/1 would have stuck better.
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Fat mud (4:1:1/2) sandortland:lime is king for vertical mud work, its consistency and lime allow it to stick even upside down.

With the bench wrapped in Kerdi, like you said I wouldn’t worry about what the mud is underneath, could have even used concrete mixed with rubble and been okay.
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I only put kerdi in top and front not support. .
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