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Old 06-24-2018, 06:29 PM   #31
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There are million dollar homes...being built by 'custom builders' that have quarter-round on their wood and tile floors.
Being expensive doesn't mean they're not cheap, Bobby.

Not sure when really expensive tract houses started being called "Custom Homes," but my custom homes were one-of-a-kind designs built for one particular customer. That's my idea of Custom Home.

At any rate, you can do your floor in any manner that suits you.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Old 06-24-2018, 08:29 PM   #32
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Second that opinion on shoe molding versus quarter round. A lot of people working in lumber yards will give you quarter round when you requested and paid for shoe molding. Got to watch them. Absolutely hate quarter round on floor. Shoe molding not so much. My grandpa used to tell me that was a sign the flooring people weren’t too good.
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Old 06-24-2018, 09:32 PM   #33
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!

Now I gotta go find out what shoe moulding is!

CX, it's one neighborhood that I had in mind. I definitely hear you, though. It's tucked in to a master-planned community (i.e., someone really wealthy developed thousands of acres and donated land and money for the schools and fire house, and invited in the builders and REITs...there'll probably be 30-40 subdivisions by the time it's all said and done)...but plopping McMansions onto a 1/3 acre (instead of a 'regular' house on a 1/6 or a 1/4) isn't what you'd think of when someone says 'custom home.' Not quite Levittown, but close.

The *builder* says they're custom home builders, but then again I think my rhymes-with-meekly home builder said he does custom homes, lol. I guess if he's done it one time, that means he's not a liar.
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Old 06-24-2018, 09:42 PM   #34
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Quarter round is 3/4” tall and 3/4” wide. Its profile is 1/4 of a circle...hence its name: “quarter round”.

Its cousin, shoe molding, is 3/4” tall but only 1/2” wide.

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Wow, just got back looking at some samples on the web. It looks like crown molding for your floor, lol.

Some of it looked plain, some pretentious, but some of it looked really elegant. I'll have to turn the wife loose on that.

Thanks for the heads up!
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Sounds like you’re looking at other fancier moldings. Shoe molding is plain. 3/4” tall, 1/2” wide, and a single convex radius on the front.

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If you'll add a geographic location to your User Profile, Bobby, some of that might make a bit more sense. And it frequently helps in answering some types of questions.
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I even came across some quarter round in a couple houses last year that was a full inch by full inch. Yuck.
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Old 06-29-2018, 03:54 PM   #39
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Sorry about that, had to go on a trip.

ToolGuy, Mark...Do you mount the 3/4" side going up the baseboard, or out across the floor? I'm guessing up.

CX, updated...thanks.

All, I understand the white stuff has to be hand-scrubbed off before install? We tried a dishwashing scrubbing sponge (rough side) with liquid dish soap (Ajax), with maybe a 40% removal (on another piece, not one in picture). How's everyone else get this stuff off (if this is even the kiln remnant that has to be removed)?
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Toolguy, CX, Mark...just got done measuring, and what I thought was quarter-round throughout our house was actually shoe-molding. The difference is a nominal 1/4", and I couldn't tell by casually looking because I just didn't know the difference.

So I'm glad you guys brought it up, because I would probably have bought/installed quarterround, and then finally noticed in a couple years that it doesn't match what shoe-moulding/tile we haven't pulled up (yet).

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Honestly that doesn't look bad at all as far as how much release is on there. As long as you burn thinset onto the backs of those tile as you go you should be fine.
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ToolGuy, Mark...Do you mount the 3/4" side going up the baseboard, or out across the floor? I'm guessing up.
Shoe molding is installed with the 3/4” height going up the wall, and the 1/2” onto the floor.

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Yeah, I'm with Ryan on the kiln release. That's not bad at all. Sometimes it covers the whole backside on some batches.
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We have learned a lot so far in doing the 150 sq ft master closet (backbuttering can be time-consuming if you're free-handing it; check for substrate flatness and treat, if applicable; only 'make' about a 1/4 bag because mortar is only good for about 1 to 1-1/4 hr and we're just not proficient enough to work with more; our technique/their design/wood textured tile mean that suction cups fail 70-80% of the time for tile placement-however, they are exceptionally useful after tile placement for adjustments; though we checked, our rectified tile is not nearly straight enough to avoid cumulative errors from building up over the width of the 10' field...I acknowledge that I'm being EXTREMELY picky here, as the errors added up to be probably less than 1mm, but still noticeable to me).

My next question for you all is about flatness, specifically about using a phenomenally straight 24" level, a not-so-straight 78" level, and a 36" straight edge to find the low spots in the rest of the 2350 sq ft install.

I don't want to pour out leveler across the entire house because we still are living here. But I don't ever again want to deal with trying to build up some part of a room with mortar so that I don't have a teeter-totter effect going on (200mmx1200mm [~8"x48"] planks).

What technique do you all use to find and flatten the low spots? I'm partial to Mapei (for whatever reason) and almost all their technical data sheets say prime and then pour the product over the entirety of the substrate to avoid "cold joint" formation. Do I really have to prime first?!? It's clean, rough, porous slab!!

I'm including a backbuttering contraption I built from a modified design the wife found on youtube...she's our backbutterer, and she says it needs a longer outfeed. It's got an angle for holding a trowel (in order to convert a pile of mortar on one side to a uniformly spread buckbutter on the other), but she hasn't been using it as designed because of the outfeed issue.

Finally, is it me, or are lower backs just not designed for more than 2 hours of crouching, lol? I guess I'm just getting old (30 years old was more than a few moons ago for me, doh!).
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Hi Bobby. I didn't read your whole thread but are you spreading thinset on the slab with the notch trowel and just skim coating the backs of the tiles? Skim coating and buttering are two different things.

I try to get as much work as possible up off the floor. I skim coat on a small stool or table, saw horses or something similar. I don't have a jig like you have but it might work just fine. I skim coat with a 6 inch putty knife and spread thinset on the slab with the notch trowel.
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