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Unread 08-22-2008, 05:46 PM   #1
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Industrial Thick Brick

I'm thinking about taking on a huge industrial thick brick (2.25" thick) installation project. Current scope of work looks like 30,000+sf with epoxy thinset and epoxy grout. I don't remember the name of the setting material but they are custom made to resist certain chemicals in the plant (luckily it isn't furan grout). Anyway someone mentioned to me to look into applying a double coat of wax before grouting.

Has anyone used a wax coating on abrasive tile and how do you get it off when finished?

We are making a mock up floor (100sf) next week.
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Unread 08-22-2008, 06:11 PM   #2
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I did a few starting out when I was a helper for a big shop in Philly.
the tile must be coated with wax prior to grouting and the grout
residue removed with steam cleaning process.


*I found this online:

Tilesetters Method -

After filling the joints,
remove the excess mortar from the sur-
face of the masonry units or quarry tile
using the trowel as a squeegee. After
masonry units or quarry tile have
achieved a full cure - 3 days at 73o F -
remove wax using a Steam Lance with 60
psi (minimum) pressure at the nozzle.
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Unread 08-29-2008, 02:15 PM   #3
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Update

We finished yesterday with the mock up floor. I would have taken photos but the use of cameras and/or camera phones are not allowed.

We had the manufacturer apply the wax coating before shipping. Area was set with Summitville S4500 Furaset Epoxy Mortar and grouted with Summitville S5000 EZ High Chemical Resistant Epoxy. The chemical resistance chart for this is pretty lengthy. I think cryptonite was the only thing that could harm it

The mock area was outside in the direct sun with 90degree weather. By the time we got to grouting the wax coating on the brick was melting off. Let me just say this grout is not your DIY stuff! But in fairness the wax that was melting off the brick might have caused some clean up problems. We will find out when we start inside in a few weeks.

This work isn't for the portfolio but I might have hit a niche. We have two other plants to look at next week. It seems no one wants this type of work anymore. Well at least in my area.
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Unread 08-30-2008, 09:09 AM   #4
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That wax coating sounds like a good thing to use on the concrete tile I make. It takes me a long time to clean up all the grout residue from the ridges in the designs. Who make this stuff? Do you have a brand that works best for you?
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I am looking at a similar project on a much smaller scale (2500 sf) w/cove base.

The project is spec'ed with Summitville 1 3/16" thick brick tile. They also have S 5000 specified for installation mortar and grout.

Did you ever do this project and outside of waxing the tile, is there any precautions I should be taking or unseen pitfalls with this type of installation?

Any words of wisdom on the usage of the S 5000?

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Unread 08-30-2015, 08:53 PM   #6
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I've considered it for other projects, but might be applicable to this.

Rather than invest in the costly setup, it might be easier to sub out the cleaning process to a company with high pressure steam equipment. Not sure how they'd feel about getting epoxy resins and wax into the machinery, but if they factor in the cost of equipment cleaning after the project maybe not a deal breaker.

Here's one I quickly Googled.
http://www.coit.com/
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Unread 09-01-2015, 07:55 PM   #7
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Might not be such a bad idea, Brad.

I talked with another contractor whom has done quite a few of these installations and he has the General/Super do the final clean up of the wax so it can be left on throughout the entire construction process in an effort to protect the tile work throughout the entire project. If he does come back to clean after the project is done, he claims that hot water is all they use to clean it off.
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