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Old 02-10-2009, 09:21 PM   #1
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Kerdi Showers

I've been doin showers the good ole' fashion way and now I'm lookin at the Kerdi. And wondering how difficult it is to install and how do you charge to install it. I have a bathroom remodel coming up in a couple weeks and was thinking about using it on that shower. Any comments and suggestions would be usefull. Thanks.
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:18 PM   #2
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Hi Brandon, price can depend on your location. Kerdi is pretty easy to install, takes a bit longer if you hang the drywall but you get to skip one mud bed. I'll move ya over to the Pro Hangout.
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:25 PM   #3
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check schluters guy on you tube puttin one in and tell us what you think.
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:38 AM   #4
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that looks easy enough. Which is better to use the kerdi shower pan or a mud bed. if i do a mud bed i dont understand how you secure the kerdi drain. and what would be the best way to build a curb.
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:04 AM   #5
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check out www.schluter.com it has both mud bed and kerdi pan installation videos.
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:42 PM   #6
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Hi Brandon, Welcome aboard.

When you say the old fashioned way, do you mean mud or backer board?
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Old 02-12-2009, 01:03 PM   #7
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Which is better to use the kerdi shower pan or a mud bed.
I have done lotsa Kerdi showers and never have used the base. Cheaper to use mud. Besides, unless the drain is perfectly centered you can't use the base.
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Old 02-12-2009, 07:16 PM   #8
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I always wondered about the kerdi base and curbs. It seems like I hardly ever do a plain ol rectangular shower anymore, which would render the prefab pans useless.

So basically, just mud your curb and pan like always and kerdi over it?
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:58 PM   #9
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No you drywall the curb and wrap the curb with Kerdi, I mud all Kerdi pans i think the foam one is a complete waste of money when I can mud one myself.
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:20 PM   #10
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The polystyrene pans are sweet, though I think they are overpriced.

I have installed a few of them, and you can't beat 'em for ease of installation.

I have drywalled a few Kerdi curbs, but somehow it just doesn't sit right with me. I now use cbu onna curbs.
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I don't like the fact that the prefab pans have a distinct valley running from the corner to the drain.

When you mud the pan it's a lot smoother of a flow to the drain.
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:01 PM   #12
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I used the new 72 inch schluter pan in an neo angle 60 inch shower and it was installed in less than 30 minutes, mixing thinset cutting it to size and was able to walk on it right away and kerdi it. Could have laid tile that day but I always flood test my kerdi showers. Never had a leak in any of about 30 kerdi showers but it could happen. Did one kerdi shower that the owner insisted on a fiberglass pan, so only walls kerdi'd and I have been back 4 times to recaulk because of a leak outside the shower door. Finally cut all caulk out of shower at the pan base because water was behind caulk and it quit leaking. No weep holes. Try to use the kerdi curb saves alot of time and won't warp. Wish it was made so you could get two curbs from one maybe 64 inches or so. PS the angle height in the kerdi pan was not noticable as the slope was so gradual.
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I like the Schulter pans. Cost is not a concern even though I think they are high. But i use them anyway when I can. Hammy
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Old 02-16-2009, 09:17 AM   #14
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In the video for a mud bed that he puts the drain into directly into a 4 inch pipe. do you not have to glue the drain?
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Are you talking the upper or lower part of the drain?

The lower portion is glued. Some guys use a 4-5" piece of pipe to help keep mud from falling into the hole in the floor.

The strainer upper portion of the drain is secured with thinset and the tile.
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