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Unread 01-30-2008, 06:15 PM   #1
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Need to replace a tile floor in shower but all concrete came out to dirt floor.

I am remodeling a home from some flood damage. The home owner tore out the old shower before I started the job. In the process the tile floor came all the way out to the dirt floor, I guess the mud bed or concrete that it was built on cracked up and came apart. all that is left is the bathroom slab about 4 inches thick on the bathroom floor and a shape like a baseball dimond removed from the slab where the old shower pan used to be and then dirt. How do I properly prepair the shower area to exept the new mud bed and tile floor. the floor drain is also there just sticking up out from the dirt.
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Unread 01-30-2008, 06:32 PM   #2
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Welcome, Holland. Please give us a first name to use, preferably in a permanent signature line.

So, in what part of Florida is this house located?

If you want to start your shower construction at the existing slab grade, it's pretty easy. Just drill the edges of the existing slab and insert some re-bar dowels, preferably with some proper pookey, and attach to them some rebar to reinforce your patch. Then pour you some concrete and level it with the surrounding slab. If the rest of the slab has a vapor barrier under it (unlikely), install the same before you tie in your steel.

If you want the shower floor dropped, you need to do some digging first, but let's decide before I get any more long-winded, eh?

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Unread 01-30-2008, 06:44 PM   #3
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So basicly just patch the floor and then go from there

My name is Shane Holland, thank you for the help. This is sort of a first for me. I wasn't sure if they used some sort of a method I just have never seen or if it was done wrong. This house is in North East Oklahoma, In Bartlesville. I think level should work fine. That is probably the way it was in the first place. It looks like they formed the slab this way and then maybe did what you are saying in the first place with a patch job. But they must have not reinforced it very well. I haven't found any evidence of re-bar, or reinforcement or even a moisture barrier. this is probably why it broke out and came out so easily.
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Unread 01-30-2008, 06:56 PM   #4
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Oh, man, now you're gonna have alla them Florida guys on here with the tongue stickin' out smilie sayin' they done tole me so and it ain't all bad only in Florida.

But that's where we see most of those empty-bottom shower installations. And it's quite intentional on their part. And they don't use a pan liner in the shower floor, either. Interesting methods we learn hereabouts.

Go to the UserCP in the blue bar above, find Edit Signature on the left, type Shane in the box that opens and hit Save Signature. Name will appear in each post that way.

You might wanna look at the Shower Construction thread in our whirl-famous Liberry also if you're not real familiar with shower building.
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Unread 01-30-2008, 07:19 PM   #5
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Cool, Thanks for all your help. Yeah Oklahoma's got our problems too. We had alot of bad flooding last summer, and a really bad Ice storm this winter. We have been declared a national disaster area like twice this year for the flooding and then the ice. Well anyway. You guys take it easy, and I will see if I can't get this house put back together. Thanks.
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Unread 01-30-2008, 09:14 PM   #6
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Shane, send some of that water over here, we could use it.

I like to recess my shower pan into the slab to eliminate or make a really low profile curb. You can do it easy with your dirt floor. I have some pichers on my thread over yonder.
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Rich,
This isn't the place to air your dirty laundry. If you are having some issues with Holland Construction, then you should have your lawyer take it up with his. If you continue to pursue this issue here, you will no longer be welcome.
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Ok, I will not resort to such a public airing of dirty laundry on this board anymore. In my defense, I was frustrated at the time and perhaps I could have been more discreet. I was looking for the guy, I searched his name, this post was at the top of the list and I lost my cool. Thought maybe he still lurked here.

On a separate note, why would I have an attorney?

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Rich,
I mentioned attorneys because it sounded to me like a business deal gone very badly and a potential case of libel. I hope that you'll stick around and enjoy our company, now that you've found your way here. We like tile, shady jokes, grandkids and beer.
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