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11-07-2007, 10:07 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: orange county, ca
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Picture of a shower mess
This is what I came across today! It sure makes my job fun to see this stuff. The owner had concerns when his new master shower started leaking. He did some research and decided to call me. The contractor tried using a lathing paper and silicone for the seams, no slope either.
No need to sandwich the paper beetween the drain when you got silicone.
Here is the end result after i had them tear it all out:
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11-07-2007, 10:23 PM
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Tampa Florida Tile Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tampa, Florida
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Mark, you are Da Man !!
that other guys work wasn't suitable for a turtle aquarium !
don't you love it when you can take crap work like that and
turn it into something good looking and done correctly ?
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11-07-2007, 10:29 PM
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Location: orange county, ca
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Yeah I really enjoy the look on the peoples face when they understand how it's supposed to be. I also enjoy their look when I tell them that they have to knock down the float!
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11-07-2007, 11:30 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Western PA - just a bit north of Pittsburgh
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boy oh boy. I guess the Home owner initially went with the lowest bid, eh? Wow!
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Anya Rules!!!!
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11-08-2007, 04:34 AM
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Tile Man -- Central Florida
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: marion county
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good job,
Whats sad is is the amount of installs just like this that get by with the owners not having any idea.
That pic is funny.
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11-08-2007, 08:41 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: lewisville, texas
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hot mop
 I have never seen this method before and Ive been installing pans since 1977.
Is this method really better than the regular shower pans?
I also wonder about the price.
If it is better and close to the same price then we should all be doing it.
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11-08-2007, 08:52 AM
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Making Cents of It All
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Menifee , California
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Which method the roofing paper or the hot mop. ?
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11-08-2007, 11:04 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: albany new york
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never seen a hotmop either is it similar to hlm 5000?thats a liquid applied asphalt waterproofing that is selfleveling or trowel grade and doesnt require being heated.mark can you post some step by step photos for us to see?
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11-08-2007, 11:37 PM
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Tampa Florida Tile Contractor
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Location: Tampa, Florida
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11-09-2007, 07:20 AM
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Fort Collins, CO. Tile Contractor
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Fort Collins, CO.
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All we do out here are hot mops. I have a good company I use that charge about $225 and they install the pre-slope. One thing that I have always wondered though, and maybe you can chime in here hotmop, but the guys I use always do the pre-slope dry then wet it down. Is this the same way you guys do it?
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11-09-2007, 08:55 AM
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Tampa Florida Tile Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tampa, Florida
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Matthew,
I might be wrong but by the color of his mix it looks very dry.

I too wonder why it is packed dry ..then wet ?
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11-09-2007, 09:30 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: San Clemente, Ca
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It's nice to see the hotmop method finaly getting some respect on the boards here. When done correctly a hotmopped pan is a good pan.
And Mark does a nice pan. I should know, I have tiled over a bout 10 of them.
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11-09-2007, 10:22 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: orange county, ca
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When we do the slope dry we get a real smoothe slope. We then spray it down with a Hudson a sprayer and trowel it out until it is soaked completely. This takes less then ten minutes and we hot mop it right away. a 3x5 shower from start to finish is done in less then a hour.
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02-22-2008, 02:23 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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I laugh at this forum.
I also looked at this website. Guys doing hotmops in shorts. No breathing apparatus. I also noticed this Ojeda guy doesn't have a contractors license. Call me all my guys follow strict safety codes and I am licensed & INSURED. Very important.
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02-22-2008, 02:55 PM
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Tile Man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Long Island N.Y.
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WOW, your first post and this is what you have to contribute, nice start.
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