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Old 04-04-2005, 12:02 PM   #1
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Kerdi & Bathtub

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I'm starting work on my master bath. I'm going to have a small "wet room" with a shower stall and bathtub. My question has to do with where the tub sits next to the sheetrock/Kerdi walls.

Should I:

1) Sheetrock/Kerdi all the way to the floor first, then install the tub, and have the tiles drop over the tub lip?

2) Install the tub first, then sheetrock/Kerdi down to the tub and over the lip?

3) Sheetrock first, tub second, then Kerdi down to the tub and over the lip?

My concern with option 2 is that water will want to wick up into the sheetrock.

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Old 04-05-2005, 07:06 AM   #2
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Hi Jared,

Install the tub first. The tub flange is designed for the backing material to come down over it.

Once installed (the tub) we'll help make sure it won't wick moisture as long as you are amenable to doing a few things.

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Welcome aboard, Jared.

I think by "backing material" that Steven means the Kerdi. The tub goes in first as close to the studs as you can get it. The sheetrock comes down but stops just above the top of the lip. The Kerdi then comes down past the lip to the deck of the tub. I stick it to the lip with thin set just to make sure it doesn't curl up before the tile is installed.

I've got a picture.

The tile comes down over the Kerdi to the tub deck. The tile/tub joint is caulked.
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Old 04-05-2005, 08:04 AM   #4
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Steven and John-

This is exactly what I needed. Thanks for the help.

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Old 04-05-2005, 08:06 AM   #5
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1. What's the white stuff between Kerdi and the tub deck?
Is that joint siliconed BEFORE tiles are set?
2. What's the white line (silicone?) on the left wall between 2 Kerdi pieces?

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Old 04-05-2005, 08:17 AM   #6
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It's all thin set. I always use white because I don't like that gray stuff under my fingernails. Gotta think about my image.
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Old 04-05-2005, 09:26 AM   #7
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Thank you John.
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:22 PM   #8
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Things are starting to take shape on my bathroom remodel. I'm planning to start the Kerdi installation this weekend...!

The "wet room" has a tub and shower stall (Kerdi shower system) directly adjacent to one another. In other words, the stall has walls on three sides, and is open to the tub on the fourth. Something like this:

_____________
|:::::::|:::::::|
|:::::::|:::::::|
|:Tub :|:Stall:|
|:::::::|:::::::/
|:::::::|::::::/ <--- Glass door
|-----------/

What do I do where the shower pan meets the tub? Silicone caulk? Should I run the kerdi up the tub the thickness of the tile?

Thanks again for any and all advice.

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Old 05-18-2005, 12:08 PM   #9
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Any ideas on this? Just hoping to have some recommendations before I start on this...

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Old 05-18-2005, 08:14 PM   #10
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Jared,

If I had to do a job like that I'd run the shower pan portion of the Kerdi up the front of the tub an inch or so and cover it with some sort of trim. I wouldn't rely on a caulk joint at the floor level. It will eventually leak, and by the time you notice it, it will have done damage.

You will not get Schluter to sign off an any "waterproof" floor where the material does not turn up the wall (or in this case, tub).

Another way to do it would be to set the tub up off the floor a couple inches and turn the Kerdi up under the edge. It could be covered with tile set flush with the tub front.
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Old 05-18-2005, 09:41 PM   #11
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Jared,

Thats a very interesting layout. I'd really like to see pictures when you get it done. For that matter I'd like to see pics of the whole process if you can.

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Old 05-24-2005, 11:04 AM   #12
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John-

Thanks for the ideas. Since the tub is already set in place, I'll most likely run the Kerdi up the side an inch or so, like you recommend.

Rob-

I've got quite a few pictures starting from when I ripped out the old bathroom. New subfloor, new walls, new plumbing. I'm hoping to be finished here in a couple of weeks, at which point I'll post pictures for the project.

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