Ceramic Tile Advice Forums - John Bridge Ceramic Tile

Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Forum on the Internet


Advertiser Directory
JohnBridge.com Home
Buy John Bridge's Books

Go Back   Ceramic Tile Advice Forums - John Bridge Ceramic Tile > Tile & Stone Forums > Cleaning, Restoration and Sealing

Sponsors


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-11-2018, 11:52 AM   #1
SelmaElias
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 6
Difference b/w impregnator & penetrating sealers?

Hello
Im wondering if there is a difference between impregnator sealers and penetrating sealers. I just had basic ceramic subway tile installed in my shower, with light grey, non-sanded grout, and I now need to seal the grout (at least I think I do). I read on one site impregnator sealers will darken grout color more than penetrating sealers. Is this true? On another site, I read impregnator and penetrating sealers are the same thing. Im a little confused, so I turned to this helpful forum. I love the current color of the grout now, and would like to avoid darkening, if possible. Any suggestions on what product and brand I should use to minimize darkening of grout? Thank you in advance.
__________________
Kelly
SelmaElias is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 02-11-2018, 04:15 PM   #2
stu rosen
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 144
They are the same-to be an impregnator it has to penetrate. Their are many different formulations made today that will have different rates of penetration based on the product and the surface your trying to protect. Sealers can react differently at times so its best you test yourself. For grout lines a solvent based carrier may work better. Any brand name will be fine-so many to chose from.Your subway tiles aren't porous but the grout doesn't hurt to seal-when you think about it what will stain the grout on your shower walls.As far as the shower floors, any staining there will come from soap film and or moisture. Sealers have their place for sure just slightly over rated.
__________________
Stu
www.stoneshine.com
stu rosen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2018, 04:38 PM   #3
SelmaElias
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 6
Thank you for your insight, Stu. Yes, I don't need to worry about staining. It's a shower/tub set up, so I'd only be sealing the walls. I thought I would need to do this to help increase water resistance, and therefore reduce water from penetrating the grout. Are you suggesting sealing for water resistance might not even be necessary? Just curious ...
__________________
Kelly
SelmaElias is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2018, 05:34 PM   #4
Davy
Moderator -- Mud Man
 
Davy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Princeton,Tx.- Dallas area
Posts: 30,194
Over rated is exactly right. Most people think that if they seal tile and grout, it'll block all moisture and stains. In a kitchen, the sealer will usually give you time to get a spill cleaned up before staining happens. You can seal your shower if you want but the waterproofing is, or should be behind the tiles.
__________________
Davy

www.davystephenstile.com
Davy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2018, 05:58 PM   #5
SelmaElias
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 6
Thank you both so much. If I'm understanding you correctly:
- repeated water exposure to unsealed grout doesn't mean the grout will dissolve overtime (or lead to mold issues).
- it doesn't matter if water soaks the grout because most of the waterproofing efforts are taking place behind the tile.

Correct on both?

Sorry for my ignorance.

THANK YOU!!
__________________
Kelly
SelmaElias is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2018, 06:57 PM   #6
Davy
Moderator -- Mud Man
 
Davy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Princeton,Tx.- Dallas area
Posts: 30,194
Correct. Grout will turn dark when it gets wet, some colors more than others.

It's not normal for grout to dissolve just from water exposure.

Having plenty ventilation helps dry the bathroom out and less chance of a mold problem. Like Stu said, soap film is where mold likes to grow so keeping it clean helps.
__________________
Davy

www.davystephenstile.com
Davy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2018, 07:02 PM   #7
SelmaElias
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 6
Wonderful, thank you again.
__________________
Kelly
SelmaElias is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Stonetooling.com   Tile-Assn.com   National Gypsum Permabase


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wrimco or other waterproof penetrating sealers? A Smith Cleaning, Restoration and Sealing 1 07-28-2015 07:17 PM
Miracle Sealants 511 impregnator or Aqua Mix Sealers Choice Gold? Altfineart Cleaning, Restoration and Sealing 24 09-05-2012 12:22 PM
Generic Preferences for Penetrating Stone Sealers MDS Cleaning, Restoration and Sealing 0 01-25-2012 09:14 AM
Penetrating Travertine sealers????? unvrknw Tile Forum/Advice Board 2 10-26-2004 06:45 PM
True penetrating concrete sealers/strengtherners rjb Professionals' Hangout 34 01-08-2004 01:55 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:52 AM.


Sponsors

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2018 John Bridge & Associates, LLC