Ceramic Tile Advice Forums - John Bridge Ceramic Tile

Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Forum on the Internet


Advertiser Directory
JohnBridge.com Home
Buy John Bridge's Books

Go Back   Ceramic Tile Advice Forums - John Bridge Ceramic Tile > Tile & Stone Forums > Tile Forum/Advice Board

Sponsors


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-05-2018, 11:29 PM   #1
gyouska
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 71
QEP self leveling system

Hi I am trying to find some info on this leveling system. I have heard mostly positive reviews. I know there any many different systems to choose from. I posted a photo. My question is there are two different types of clips you can buy. one is flat the other is curved. most of the reviews were saying that with the curved clips 1/2x1/2 trowel is required because it holds the tile up too high and will not get good coverage on the mortar if you use 3/8 trowel. I was told the curved clips are for large format tiles because the weight will smash them flat. does anyone know about these and the difference? my tiles are 6x36 wood plank tiles.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Steve.
gyouska is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 02-05-2018, 11:49 PM   #2
Houston Remodeler
Pondering retirement daily

STAR Senior Contributor

 
Houston Remodeler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 27,844
LASH is an excellent system. The older curved clips are for tiles of uneven thickness, and the traditional thicknessed tiles (~3/8). The newer flat bottomed clips are for thinner tiles.

You can use a 3/8 inch trowel, but generally you need a 1/2" for larger tiles anyway including the side you are using
__________________
Paul1

For when DIY isn't such a good idea...
Houston TX area Kitchen & Bath Remodeling


http://CabotAndRowe.com
Houston Remodeler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2018, 11:55 PM   #3
gyouska
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 71
what style clip would you advise for 6x36 wood tiles
__________________
Steve.
gyouska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2018, 11:58 PM   #4
gyouska
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 71
all the reviews I was seeing people were having problems using 3/8 trowel with the curved clips. I thought I saw the manufacturer specifies to use 1/2 trowel also but im not sure.
__________________
Steve.
gyouska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 07:08 AM   #5
greenjp
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 138
I'm using the "flat" version in my shower at the moment with 9x12, 5/16th thick tiles being set with a 1/4x3/8 trowel. As you note QEP recommends the curved clips for use when using a 1/2x1/2 trowel, and the flat ones for smaller trowels. This setup is working well for me.

The guides I've seen recommend a 1/2x1/2 trowel for your size tile so you should probably use the curved clips.

Get the tool they sell for pressing the wedges in.
__________________
jeff
greenjp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 09:01 AM   #6
Houston Remodeler
Pondering retirement daily

STAR Senior Contributor

 
Houston Remodeler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 27,844
You should buy both the curved and the flat clips and find out which works with your tile depending how thick the tiles are. You'll know right away if the curved clips are too large for your tiles or not, depending on the thickness of the tiles.
__________________
Paul1

For when DIY isn't such a good idea...
Houston TX area Kitchen & Bath Remodeling


http://CabotAndRowe.com
Houston Remodeler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 11:03 AM   #7
gyouska
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 71
I am just trying to see if anyone has any experience using them with 3/8 thinset vs 1/2. and if they would use flat or curved.
__________________
Steve.
gyouska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 11:12 AM   #8
MisterJJ
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Ramona (SoCal)
Posts: 144
I would say that using them with 3/8 is a no-go. I tried the flat ones using a 1/2 trowel and still ran into problems. Some of my tile isn't quite as flat as the rest and I had a tile bottom out on the leveling clip, preventing me from getting more level. But I'm working with 13" x 13" tile.
__________________
Joe
MisterJJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 11:15 AM   #9
gyouska
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 71
do you think the curved ones would be a better option then? also 1/2 thinset? again I am using 6x36 wood plank tiles. I am trying to get a hold of manufacturer to see what they recommend.
__________________
Steve.
gyouska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 06:09 PM   #10
reefone
tile setter
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: michigan
Posts: 698
I always go 1/2" and flat bottom.
__________________
Jerry
tile setter 12yrs exp.
reefone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 06:34 PM   #11
Tool Guy - Kg
Moderator -- Wisconsin Kitchen & Bath Remodeler
 
Tool Guy - Kg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Oak Creek, WI
Posts: 20,263
I think you need to be of the understanding that you're likely to be using a larger 1/2" notched trowel with those tiles and using clips. And based solely on your thread title, I'd gently remind you that these clips are only a small aide in the installation of tiles. They don't replace the hard work and skill of aligning the tiles.

__________________
Tonto Goldstein….. but my friends call me Bubba
Tool Guy - Kg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 08:06 PM   #12
gyouska
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 71
ok thanks for the feed back. but you guys are saying the flat ones would be good in my situation?
__________________
Steve.
gyouska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 08:07 PM   #13
Tool Guy - Kg
Moderator -- Wisconsin Kitchen & Bath Remodeler
 
Tool Guy - Kg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Oak Creek, WI
Posts: 20,263
Yes, the flat are good for your tiles that are all of equal thickness.

P.S. I'm starting to drive myself in circles with all the threads you've started. The folks volunteering to answer your questions would all appreciate it if you'd stop starting new threads for each of your questions. It's a lot easier posting to one thread from this point forward.

Thank you.

__________________
Tonto Goldstein….. but my friends call me Bubba
Tool Guy - Kg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 09:10 PM   #14
gyouska
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 71
when you say even thickness you literally mean the thickness of the tile? the wood plank tiles I look like seem like they are the same thickness but some pieces have a pretty good bow in them. so 1/2 trowel and flat clips?
__________________
Steve.
gyouska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 09:35 PM   #15
Houston Remodeler
Pondering retirement daily

STAR Senior Contributor

 
Houston Remodeler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 27,844
The actual thickness of the tiles. Try the curved ones with two dry tiles. If you can make the clip tight without bottoming out the clip you are good. If not, use the flat clips
__________________
Paul1

For when DIY isn't such a good idea...
Houston TX area Kitchen & Bath Remodeling


http://CabotAndRowe.com
Houston Remodeler is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Stonetooling.com   Tile-Assn.com   National Gypsum Permabase


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Leveling system vs no leveling system uscpsycho Tile Forum/Advice Board 20 12-13-2016 11:54 AM
Leveling System Saldibs Professionals' Hangout 21 02-01-2012 04:09 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:25 PM.


Sponsors

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2018 John Bridge & Associates, LLC