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Old 02-05-2018, 09:59 PM   #1
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Repair cracked ceramic corner shelf

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My ceramic comer shelf in my shower just broke. I have cleaned the corner up and there is only dead thin set left in the recess.

Could you please take a look at the pictures attached?
  1. how can I take the dead thin set out?
  2. how can I make it look OK(not an eye sore) and water tight again?


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Old 02-05-2018, 10:03 PM   #2
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Stubby,

Welcome to the forum.

From what we can see of the previous install, I highly doubt there is any way to make this waterproof. Unless there is sheet membrane behind the ceement board, you're SOL in the waterproof department.

That being said, I' take a cold chisel and hammer to the thinset and carefully chip it away, allowing enough room for new thinset and a new corner shelf.

Can you remove the escutcheon plate at the shower faucet and take a picture of the cross section of the wall assembly?
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They sell the same shelves at Daltile and other places
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Old 02-06-2018, 04:15 PM   #4
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Thank you Paul. I asked my builder that is not water proofed. I think I will install a new one as you suggest.
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Today, I bought a similar shelf and type 1 mastic. The Lowe's guy said I could use it for the shelf. I read the instructions. He seems to be right because the shelf will not be submerged or receive any standing water. Would this be OK? Or must I use ceramic mortar?

I will also caulk the edges so that it is air tight. Should I use Silicon for caulking?
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I would not use mastic in that application. Most of the big box stores sell 10lb. bags of thinset powder that you mix with water. Use that, and some masking tape to hold it in place overnight. Make sure it's sloped so that water doesn't stand on it.

You can use silicone for aesthetic purposes where the dish meets the wall.
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While theoretically, the product you have would work okay in ideal conditions...

Judging from the relative large thickness of the old mortar, you're exceeding the thickness capacity of that mastic. That's the deal breaker for me. A real live mortar that you have to mix with water will be stronger and able to handle the thickness of bonding material you seem to require.

Yes, silicone is a great sealant to use around the corner shelf.




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Another vote for powdered thinset that you mix with water. Take the mastic back.
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Thank you all for your insight. I am exchanging it with mortar. Hopefully, I can find a small bag.
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Just bought this from Home Depot. 1.5 pounds is the smallest I can find, which is perfect for my use case.
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