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gottwins 02-08-2009 05:36 PM

Issue with V-caps on tile countertop install
 
I'm just about ready to attempt my first tiling job- my countertop. I've noticed my v-caps will be about 3/16" lower than my 4x8 tiles and would like to know how to raise the v-caps to be flush with the tiles. Tiles and V-caps are porcelain and from the same company. Thanks in advance, Dave

TileArt1 02-08-2009 06:02 PM

Hello Dave, welcome!

You can put enough extra mortar beneath the v-caps to raise them to the flush level of the tile.

Some are made so they actually raise up a bit before going over the edge, kind of a subtle curve. (keeps stuff from rolling off your countertop as well as other things like water) Just make sure you have the backs flush against your countertop edge to ensure stability. Extra mortar beneath them will help level them out, though.

gottwins 02-08-2009 06:23 PM

Thanks Roger, If I understand you correctly you are saying that I don't have to 'Push" the tile down into the mortar when I set it, I can let it "Float" on top? That will be pretty tough to keep all the Vcaps even in height won't it? They do have the subtle curve on top too. Yes I am a novice tiler (LOL). Dave

TileArt1 02-08-2009 06:31 PM

Hey Dave,

No, you do have to push it down into the mortar, just put more mortar beneath them so that when you do push them down into it there is enough mortar to keep them level with the other tile. You will just have more mortar beneath the v-caps. You don't want them to float on top, you want plenty of mortar especially under the v-caps as they will be leaned on and bumped around more than the countertop. You want to make sure they are nice and solid.

gottwins 02-10-2009 04:11 PM

Thanks again Roger, I have 1 or 2 weeks for the new cabinets to arrive so I am going to give it a little dry run with a couple xtra tiles and see how it goes. I'll keep u posted. Wish me luck-I need it! dave

Davy 02-10-2009 04:32 PM

With 3/8 difference, it's probably worth spreading a layer of thinset along the top edge and letting it set up. I'd probably try to get 1/4 inch of thinset on there. That will make it easier when you go to set the V-caps.

Something I learned years ago, if you have solid stock wood on the front edge, leave a little space and put a bead of silicone behind the front of the V-cap. I'll explain. One of the first full countertops I did years ago had a wood front edge. I mudded the top and even used the metal edging made for a mud job. The metal edging has a space for mud on the face, about 1/4 inch thick. Within a few months the wood swelled enough to crack about 35 pieces of V-cap along the top edge. Since that job I have tiled countless countertops and island tops and I'll leave the v-cap's front edge away from wood or whatever is there about 1/8 and put a big bead of silicone on the front. You would think it would be easy to break but I haven't ever had to replace any and I have been back to some of these homes and everything still looks great.:)


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