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Kilauea 05-27-2013 05:25 PM

You do very nice work,sir.Thanks for sharing.

Dont let these guys beat u up too much.Its almost like a hazing.You'll do great here:usflag:

XrayX 05-27-2013 05:40 PM

Thanks, I get the some of the criticism. But I know what works and was just trying to make someone's life easier. Also am passionate about my work so when someone try's to belittle what I say it doesn't sit we'll with me. I understand I might be new to this forum but not new to the industry.

HS345 05-27-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray
Thanks, I get the some of the criticism. But I know what works and was just trying to make someone's life easier. Also am passionate about my work so when someone try's to belittle what I say it doesn't sit we'll with me. I understand I might be new to this forum but not new to the industry.

That's a two way street bro. ;) Welcome aboard.

L.T. knows what he's talking about. Right TT....er....LT? :D

Chad Deiter Company 05-27-2013 07:05 PM

Mastic usually yellows over time that's why it's not listed on glass manufactures websites.

XrayX 05-27-2013 07:08 PM

Not all mastics yellow. But yes most do.and I wouldn't use one that dose.

gueuzeman 05-27-2013 07:16 PM

[QUOTEHS somethingdy something]L.T. knows what he's talking about. Right TT....er....LT? [/quote]

Moderator - edited to remove offensive personal remark

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True story.

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Chad Deiter Company 05-27-2013 07:17 PM

I have only ever used the Customs one I'm not sure how many are out there.

XrayX 05-27-2013 07:38 PM

I never seen it yellow.

XrayX 05-27-2013 07:39 PM

Acryl pro that is.

Chad Deiter Company 05-27-2013 07:41 PM

I have before. I don't use much mastic anymore there are better non-sag thin sets out for better price.

melissadurante 05-27-2013 08:01 PM

Well...I picked up my Omni-grip today as well as my trowel...spacers..etc.
As far as my kitchen floor...I will be using Ditra and thinset. I just find the concept of not rushing before my thinset dries...as well as making a dusty mess mixing my thinset alot less "stressful".

As far as the National Electrical Code....we follow it to a tee..most times. But to be honest with you...some of it is tremendous OVER-kill.

For instance..I am in a 6 story building and must use bx....which I do. But why not Romex? In fact, imo you get a much better ground using romex. The reason AGAINST it.....vermon/rats can chew through it.

But there was never a mouse or rat in a single family dwelling?

Dedicated outlets are supposed to be on a 20 amp breaker and convenience outlets on 15 amp breakers. But if you are using 12 gauge....which we ALWAYS use...and is good for up to 20 amps...why can't you put a convenience outlet on a 20 amp breaker?

The reason...identification purposes....it's definitely not a safety issue.

Just my 2 cents

Hank B. 05-27-2013 10:19 PM

I know a guy who used acrylpro to set 2x2 glass to denshield on a backslash and the tile developed spots which turned out to be mold. I used mastic (acrypro) to set white subways to drywall cause that's what the store I subbed the bs from provided. I put the lid on the bucket and used the bucket as a door stop in my laundry for 1mo. I opened the bucket to use the remainder for some sample boards, and it was full of hairy mold. y'all can keep your mastic, too many good thinsets on the market to consider using it IMO.

jwmezzanotte 05-27-2013 10:53 PM

I bend quite a few of the directions on products, but I like to think I have a bit of an understanding about how they work when I do so. I'm probably incorrect often enough, that understanding is a work in progress. And its taken me a long time, and countless hours of reading and tinkering to get whatever "understanding" I have about things.

Certainly more than your average diy'er will put into trying to understand things.

So suggesting going against manufacture directions, mixing products, etc amongst other pro's is probably ok. They should all understand what is going on.
Its not really ok for diy'ers because they don't have that same understanding, and will just take advice literally. That can be bad if you think about some of the misinformation out there.

I've heard some good ones being preached at our local building supply.
"The showers leak because the grout lines are to tight for grout to get in and seal it up"
"just put cement board up and caulk the joints and its waterproof"
"It won't leak if you put sealer on it"

and my favorite...

"showers just get moldy grout lines, its the way it is. That's why you use a dark grout"

I'm sure everyone has heard some "gooders"
(That might make an interesting thread! :idea: )

I have used mastic before also, and would again if need be. But care should be taken when giving advice to diy'ers.
I once had to help someone out once because their floor all fell apart. The store had sent them home to install cheapo 12"x12" ceramic tile on a concrete slab, with mastic, and a 1/8" v-notch trowel... :complain:

John Bridge 05-28-2013 08:22 AM

The crux of all of this is that we are pros, and we have to stand behind what we do. If we improvise, as we all do from time to time, it is our business. If things go awry we pay the price and move on.

DIYers, on the other hand, know nothing except what they hear in person or read. After you've been around here a while you'll feel the confusion. Sticking pretty much to the party line in the Advice Forum provides consistency and reduces confusion. It's the operating procedure we have chosen to follow for that forum.

As to having rights, if you read my Rules of the Road for the Forum that was referenced earlier, you'll come to the realization that you have few if any rights here. This is a privately owned web site, and the forum itself is owned by a partnership. Your rights consist of those that the partnership allows. The moderators are all volunteers who do most of the actual running of the show. We appreciate them very much and back them up in what they do and say.

I believe strongly in a free marketplace of ideas, and we encourage it everywhere on the forums except in the Advice Forum. And that, my friends is all there is to it. :)

tileaz 05-28-2013 10:20 AM

Remember, all standards(ANSI, TCNA) are voluntary.........until it fails, then it becomes mandatory in a court of law.:complain:


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