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johhny468
01-16-2011, 06:20 PM
I bought premixed simpleset on advise from HD I used it to install 3" glass tile border and the middle was 12x12 porcelain tiles

I just read the directions after I finshed install and it says not to use with glass tiles. Should I remove the border and redo? Or should i leave it alone?

what will happen If I dont redo it

Please help!

Thanks J

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Brian in San Diego
01-16-2011, 06:39 PM
Welcome, Johnny.

I am among the crowd who wouldn't use Simpleset on a bet. Part of the problem is the ability of the Simpleset to cure. If it was mine, I think I would start over, but then again, that's me.

Brian

Jim wood
01-16-2011, 06:50 PM
Johnny is this in the shower, on the floor or a backsplash?

Cain
01-16-2011, 06:57 PM
the only good use for mastic is the buckets will hold a door open as I carry in some real thinset.
I've seen many installers use it, and some jobs are fine and others are not.
I wouldn't bet my job or reputation on it working well, but that is me.

you say you set12x12's with it and had a glass border, does that mean this was a shower or wet area?
If it is I would recomend taking everything down and use a thinset. mastic is no good in wet areas.

johhny468
01-16-2011, 07:25 PM
Thanks for all the replies!

Nope it's in a small half bathroom on the floor so it shouldnt get very wet and also there wont be much foot traffic as it only on the borders

why dont they recomend this stuff? whats the worst that can happen?

cx
01-16-2011, 07:32 PM
Welcome, Johnny. :)

I know of no glass tile manufacturer who will recommend the use of mastic (organic adhesive) for setting his product. And especially for setting it on a floor.

Over what substrate did you set these tiles using the SimpleSet?

johhny468
01-17-2011, 06:26 PM
I went ahead and ripped all the border glass tiles I bought MAPEI 10 lbs. White Powder Polymer-Modified Mortar/Adesilex™ P10 Mosaic & Glass Tile from lowes for the reinstall.

The porcelin tile were rock sold so I left them installed on the floor

I spent 6 hours washing/soaking the glass tile to get all the simpleset off..its funny what you wil do when you spend $15/sq for tile to save them

how would to match up the tile when there 2 differant sizes main tile/glass border tiles?

Thanks for all the help

Houston Remodeler
01-17-2011, 06:35 PM
Johnny,

You do realize the glass tiles will scratch from regular use right? They will look all cloudy in a few months. The center ones will get more wear than the outer ones. And if you have any furniture with metal feet, you stand a good chance of breaking the glass. Unless the manufacturer allows it, glass isn't considered a floor tile.

Just sayin....

johhny468
01-17-2011, 06:47 PM
Thanks fior the heads up but I think it will be ok the only place people will ever walk on them will be between the 28" door jam. its a powder room/bath so no heavy foot traffic or at least no shoes on

tilelayer
01-17-2011, 09:10 PM
I've installed glass mosaics for an insert on floors when I clip corners and the glass has held up just fine.

johhny468
01-18-2011, 09:12 AM
it just gets better!...what other options do I have to install glass border tile over vinyl? I was going to use mapli Adesilex glass tile mortar but it says not recomened on there website they have mortars for vinyl but none for glass/vinyl

what thinset would you use? again this is for a 3 1/2 x 6 half bathroom

Thanks Again!

bbcamp
01-18-2011, 09:47 AM
Johnny, at this point, I don't think it really matters what thinset you use. Start from the beginning and tell us what's under your tile (underlayment, subfloor, joists, everything) and what you did to prep the floor for tile.