oregongretchen

03-02-2007, 10:38 AM

I am starting the layout design to tile a shower (new construction, no tub) and have a few questions. I am using 4 1/4" ceramic field tiles and want to lay them out "on point"-- diagonal, with a decorative break of glass subway tiles at about 5 feet up (different size), then diagonal tiles again. Side walls are 36", backwall is almost 48". I'd like the partial tiles on the corners to mirror from back wall to side wall. Would someone be willing to read and critique my layout plans?

1) I will layout my tiles in 4-tile "squares" with diagonal snap lines (9 tiles seems too difficult). I calculated the distance between diagonals (2 tiles plus 2 grout lines= 8 3/4"). I calculated the distance from the top point of one 4-square "diamond" to the next "diamond (12 3/8").

2) I will snap (or pencil) a centerline across the back wall (23 11/16"), then measure that same distance up the vertical wall edge and connect the two points to create my first diagonal line. I will then make parallel diagonal lines at 8 3/4" apart (which should intersect along my vertical side edges at 12 3/8" apart.

3) I will create these diagonals ONLY up to the point where my glass subway tiles begin. Then I will need to start a different set of diagonals above the glass tiles (my glass tiles are a different size and throw off the diagonals!)

4) With this layout, I end up with partial tiles on the backwall sides that are about 1/6th and 5/6th of a full tile...not too close to a prefered 1/2 tile. Should I shift my centerline and forget symetry across the backwall?

5) I have tried a numbere of layouts to do the side walls, but am not satisfied with any...what is the best way to lay out the two side walls relative to the back wall? (note: I will have a shower curtain and surface bullnose along the front of the side walls). I have tried (a) laying out the side walls by starting from the backwall, mirroring the cut tiles, and coming forward to the side wall openings, and end up with partial tiles that are about 1/4 and 3/4s of a full tile. (b) I have also tried starting behind the bullnose in the front, and moving back towards the back wall...but then the grout lines won't line up with the back wall....isn't that apt to be ugly? (c) I haven't tried laying out the sidewall centered on the sidewall's centerline because, again, the tiles and groutlines won't line up with the back wall. HELP!!?!! The first sidewall layout (#a) seems easiest to snap lines for, because the grout lines should line up with the back wall, and the diagonals will simply be 90 degrees on diagonal from the back wall lines.

Sorry for this long long question!! Any help is really appreciated, I am a newbie!!

Gretchen

1) I will layout my tiles in 4-tile "squares" with diagonal snap lines (9 tiles seems too difficult). I calculated the distance between diagonals (2 tiles plus 2 grout lines= 8 3/4"). I calculated the distance from the top point of one 4-square "diamond" to the next "diamond (12 3/8").

2) I will snap (or pencil) a centerline across the back wall (23 11/16"), then measure that same distance up the vertical wall edge and connect the two points to create my first diagonal line. I will then make parallel diagonal lines at 8 3/4" apart (which should intersect along my vertical side edges at 12 3/8" apart.

3) I will create these diagonals ONLY up to the point where my glass subway tiles begin. Then I will need to start a different set of diagonals above the glass tiles (my glass tiles are a different size and throw off the diagonals!)

4) With this layout, I end up with partial tiles on the backwall sides that are about 1/6th and 5/6th of a full tile...not too close to a prefered 1/2 tile. Should I shift my centerline and forget symetry across the backwall?

5) I have tried a numbere of layouts to do the side walls, but am not satisfied with any...what is the best way to lay out the two side walls relative to the back wall? (note: I will have a shower curtain and surface bullnose along the front of the side walls). I have tried (a) laying out the side walls by starting from the backwall, mirroring the cut tiles, and coming forward to the side wall openings, and end up with partial tiles that are about 1/4 and 3/4s of a full tile. (b) I have also tried starting behind the bullnose in the front, and moving back towards the back wall...but then the grout lines won't line up with the back wall....isn't that apt to be ugly? (c) I haven't tried laying out the sidewall centered on the sidewall's centerline because, again, the tiles and groutlines won't line up with the back wall. HELP!!?!! The first sidewall layout (#a) seems easiest to snap lines for, because the grout lines should line up with the back wall, and the diagonals will simply be 90 degrees on diagonal from the back wall lines.

Sorry for this long long question!! Any help is really appreciated, I am a newbie!!

Gretchen