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Old 12-06-2011, 05:58 PM   #1
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carpet to tile transition

I have a house that I am upgrading while it is vacant. I am having carpet put in on Monday just in the bedrooms and will come back later and put tile in bathroom and kitchen. My question is, do I need to have the carpet installer do anything special at the doorways that will lead into a tiled area? Am I wrong in thinking that I was going to have him just stop halfway in the doorway and I would just butt the tile against the carpet when I tile the rooms?.
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:06 PM   #2
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Have him stop at the halfway point underneath the doorway when the door is closed. Are you on concrete or a wood subfloor?

If on concrete have him use a piece of Z=bar for the carpet transition. It will hold the carpet and tuck it down better than a standard piece of tack strip.

If on a wood subfloor, DO NOT have him finish the door ways, let the carpet overlap the door way by 3 to 4 inches, and wait for the tile to be installed, that way he can use shingles or other techniques to ramp the carpet gradualy up to the tile transition.
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:20 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply, I have a concrete floor also. I will have him use the z bar.
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:40 PM   #4
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I dont like z bars or any of those type transitions between tile & carpet.
maybe a Schluter Jolly if anything.
I like the tile and carpet tucked to it. a simple tack strip installed at the doorway
and let the tile guy cut his tile close to it. the tile guy should be able to cut and
tuck the carpet after its grouted easily.
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Brian, out of curiosity why dont you like z-bars ?
I could understand if the carpet guys were coming in after the tile work was done, just due to the risk involved in tucking down the z-bar.

But if the carpet is going in first, why would you stay away from one ? It holds the edge of the carpet much better than tack alone and the metal itself is hidden so there is no transition to see other than the carpet itself.

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Old 12-06-2011, 08:30 PM   #6
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I also prefer the carpet to be tucked and if possible be a smidge higher than the tile to protect the tile edge. A metal profile is a nice addition and cheap protection.
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Old 12-06-2011, 09:08 PM   #7
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Brian, out of curiosity why dont you like z-bars ?
You mean aside from'em lookin' ugly, Gabe?
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You mean aside from'em lookin' ugly, Gabe?
There is nothing ugly about them, you dont see any metal, just carpet.

BUT, since I searched to find a profile, being to lazy to draw and scan one this morning, I did find another transition some are calling Z-bar, but we call a T and it is ugly as all hell.


Pic on the Left is what we here in sunny, currently cold California call a Z-bar. It is a thin metal stip that helps roll the carpet over on itself and pinches it in. Which is what I suggest.

Pic on the right is what we quasi normal people call a T, but some east of us are calling Z. Why I dont know, it looks nothing like a Z but to each thier own This transition seems only suitable for someone with really bad taste.
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Well, I'll stand corrected, then. I was thinking of something else entirely.

But in my part of the world the carpet guys would just put down a tack strip (or two) about a quarter-inch, depending upon the carpet type, from the edge of the tile and just tuck into the gap.

And I've never seen one properly done in that style come loose, which surprised me for a long time but I've now come to accept.

Only time I've seen that Z-bar used is where a carpet edge is gonna be fully exposed to view, with no trim at all. I can think of exactly one of those and remember exactly where it was on accounta I had occasion recently to go back to that house to install hand railing in that area.
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:20 AM   #10
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That is a standard practice around here also. I am just partial to z-bar, holds up better in my experience.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:06 PM   #11
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I have one more question. I was going to go ahead and hang my prehung door before the carpet installer. Should I put the door jambs all the way to the concrete slab and then put the trim a half inch up?It will be going from carpet to tile.
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If by "trim", you're referring to base molding, you need to know how thick the carpet is to know what a good amount is to keep it off the floor. For fairly normal plush carpet, all my carpet guys seem to like ~3/8".

For the bottom of door jambs, it depends on what flooring is going in. I'll hold it off the floor or undercut them if it's a situation to help with carpet install. But don't forget to consider a jamb that straddles two different flooring materials of dis-similar thickness...like carpet and tile. You many not be able to get away with a straight-line undercut across the entire jamb going from carpet to tile.

By the way, I generally install carpeting last, after all the tile/wood/vinyl is installed. I find it a pain to install tile (especially with a metal profile strip) against carpeting that's already turned & tacked or is left long. Not to mention how careful you have to be to keep mortar and grout off the new carpet.


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What Goldstein said. Some carpet guys'll whine if you don't give'em a half-inch above rough floor, but 3/8ths is usually enough.

And when I set my interior doors I always set the jamb low enough to accommodate the lowest finished floor covering. If we end up with a floor covering higher than that, jambs can be cut to different heights.

My preference in new construction has always been to get the hard-surface flooring in before interior doors are set.

Carpet is always the last trade in the house with the exception of the painter for his final touch-up. Well, when planning is actually working, of course.
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Schluter's Reno TK is my fav for carpet to tile transitions
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