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Old 01-09-2012, 06:46 PM   #76
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Note on Deflecto

John didn't do it. Our engineering staff (DaveM and bbcamp) did.

The tile industry no longer supports the L-720 requirement. We at JBF think it still matters, though.

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Old 01-14-2012, 06:37 PM   #77
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So the tile industy on longer supports the 720 requirement for natural stone that they have never dealt with?

I do know that Laticrete products only require 480 for stone, but require 2 layers of plywood for all their products.

Back to Greenskin, I received my latest order yesterday to continue my current project.

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Old 01-14-2012, 06:57 PM   #78
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Can you explain more about this stuff(Devcom Greenskin on OSB), how it gets applied, thanks
explain more specs? See data sheet at http://www.devcomtape.com/uploads/GS...data-sheet.pdf

How it's applied- clean your floor- I know earlier in this thread Brigit said sweep it and stick it, but I disagree. Personally I think all floors should be scraped, vacuumed and sponged before setting ANYTHING on them, let alone the dust cloud created by a push broom. But I'm kinda anal like that.

Application- on your now very clean floor, roll out and cut your mat to length. Then kneel down at the end you are going to start at, lift back the end of your rip, and peel back the backing film to expose the first 6 or so inches of adhesive . Lay it down on the floor and smooth it down, slight pressure, no pounding required.

Then roll up your rip from the end to the stuck part, and grab the backing film from underneath and pull it evenly, the membrane will lay on the floor. Smooth it in with the trowel, going in increments of 3-6 feet. I am using (in the picture below) an 8 foot straightedge to pull against just to keep it right where I want it. Like ditra, small gaps between the membrane are no issue, and pipe cuts and whatnot can be pieced it in any size.

The biggest limitation I see in it is if you need to meet up with 3/4" hardwood, there the ditra height/thickness will help you out.

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Old 01-14-2012, 07:28 PM   #79
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G man,

After you cut it and start installation , how do you end up with it ? Shorter , longer or it stays the same lenght.
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Same, put part of that is trying not to stretch and pull, just to pull the backing off.

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Old 01-14-2012, 07:42 PM   #81
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Old 01-14-2012, 07:54 PM   #82
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You need a piece to play with?

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Old 01-14-2012, 08:12 PM   #83
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Sure . Why not . Much appreciated.
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when I used a similar product, I was lucky to have a helper. He pulled the backing, while I troweled it out. I found the 3' width was the easiest width to work with. 4' rolls were to hard to get you arms around.

I have a 650sf garage I'm spec'ing GREEN SKIN on.

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Old 01-15-2012, 07:03 AM   #85
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Gueuze, thanks for your post on the application of this. I never heard a it but then I never saw this thread either.

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Our standard sizing is 3' x 75' but we also supply 1' and 2' cuts to offer a true crack suppression isolation "band-aid kit" approach to patching. Also, our product can be installed with either butt or overlap seam/joint, depending on your specific underlayment requirements.
So compared to the Tavy thin skin product no glue to put down first. So it is much easier to install. I said easier not easy, never easy when you work alone compared to having a helper with this type a product.

So reading Brigit's post above, this product is a crack isolation or not. The part about offering the "band-aid kit" is a little confusing. I noticed in Jeff's post where he had I think 5 pics, he had a nice crack on the slab. This is a crack isolation product or does it fall into the "uncoupling" gray area?
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Just read the specs. Did I understand that, up to 1/2" crack isolation?

I see their corporate office is in Easton, guess I can just drive up and get some to try
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We use it for crack isolation.

Remember the famous bank job.

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I have a 1900 sq.ft. project and a 2300 sq.ft. project coming up.
the only thing holding me up from using this stuff is the lack of it
being stocked, pricing and the shipping cost involved to get it.

I can get NAC ECB locally at well below the GreenSkin pricing.
I got samples and liked what I seen, but cant justify spending
another $0.50 per sq.ft. because its colored green and new.
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Hammy, the famous bank job. Do you still have that money with the die pack in it.............lol Yes, I didn't know what was used under the tile.

Yes, as for products sometimes you use what you can get your hands on and what is most cost efficient.
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Didn't see it discussed so far, but does the rolled up sheet have a memory like Easy Mat? Meaning it fights you in controlling it, expecially when you get near the end of the roll?

And can you SLC right over greenskin? That would be ideal use to keep from putting down lath. Or lath needed anyway?
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