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Old 09-01-2011, 11:44 AM   #1
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new kerdi questions

hello...will be installing a 32 x 60 off center kerdi pan in the near future

i was going to drywall today, and realized that since the pan was such it tight fit predrywall, that i'd have the trim the pan down a bit to allow for the drywall

i cannot use a center drain in this installation (think john suggested this in an
earlier thread)

the other option is to just put the pan in and then drywall to the bottom of it...this would mean no trimming of the pan.....

another question...why does kerdi only give a 4 foot curb.....i need 5 ft.....
isn't that what most people need when they tear out a tub?

suggestions or opinions requested

(plan to use the rectangular betterbench, but that's another issue)
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Old 09-01-2011, 12:15 PM   #2
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Trim and install the tray after you install the drywall and Kerdi on the walls.

You can make the curb out of 2x4s or bricks if a 5 foot foam curb isn't available. As to why, you'll have to ask Herr Schluter.
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:51 PM   #3
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Your it should have 2 curbs that are 4' long each. If you only received one, go back to the place you bought it from and ask them wheret he rest of the kit is.
Here is a link to the shower kits, scroll down and intil you find your kit it list 2 curbs in the kit.
http://www.schluter.com/8_4_kerdi_shower_kit_5858.aspx

Reason they are 4', your guess is as good as mine. However, most pallets are 48x something and a 60" curb would create a whole lot of shipping issues. Just my thoughts.
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Old 09-01-2011, 10:07 PM   #4
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:25 PM   #5
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Yes my kit had 2 four footers.
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:10 AM   #6
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ok...the drywall is up

i have a quarter inch gap between two intersecting walls...also some tears in the drywall paper (and a few holes, where the screws missed)..it was hell
getting the sheets in by myself

1. can i use latex or oil primer on the tears....i plan to kerdi band the intersecting walls...will thinset be ok in the gap?..how about the holes
how long would you wait before using kerdi after primer?

2. i plan to buy some kerdi fix..should i use that in some areas?

i'm still a couple of weeks away from putting the kerdi sheets up...plan to put the walls up first...do some tiling (not the bottom row), then put in the
kerdi pan (which is about 3/4 inch too long)...think i have a good idea on how
to manage the pan (using the search option), but may ask more about that later

thanks guys
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:32 AM   #7
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1) You don't need to prime the wall board, including where it is torn. The gap in the corner is OK.

2) Use Kerdi-fix for sealing anything that cannot otherwise be sealed by overlapping the Kerdi or Kerdi-band by 2 inches. The stuff is incredibly usefull, but also pretty expensive, so use it where you need it, but don't waste it.
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:34 AM   #8
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Welcome, Rick.

1. I wouldn't bother with any primer, but then I don't know just what you're using it for. If you prime, follow the primer manufacturer's recommendation for dry time. Pay not attention to those gaps in the wall board corners, they're just about right for an easy Kerdi installation.

2. Mmmm, OK, trick question, right?

I don't start a Kerdi shower without a tube of Kerdi Fix on hand. Don't use it much, but, as the manufacturer specifies, I use it on raw sheetrock edges around shower controls and such, and for attaching Kerdi to other materials, such as window frames, glass blocks, Ipe trim, etc. Very useful product.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:51 AM   #9
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thank you

i was going to use 18 x 18 travertine...like my other bathrooms (contractor did those)...but now am thinking a travertine "look alike" in porcelain tile...
does anyone have any recommendations?

my other bathrooms did not have two layers of plywood, hardibacker was not
bonded to floor..no grout line between tiles on floor or shower wall...
travertine was sealed with behr concrete sealer....wish i had flound this site
sooner...and least this bathroom will be done right

by the way, no cracks in the other bathroom yet
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Rick, we won't guarantee that you'll get cracks in the other bathrooms, nor will we promise you won't. We'll just tell you which side of the table to bet your money.
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Old 09-26-2011, 03:22 PM   #11
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my feeling is it's just a matter of time before cracks appear in other bathrooms

that's why i'm trying to do this one myself.....
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my feeling is it's just a matter of time before cracks appear in other bathrooms
Mine, too.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:36 AM   #13
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i was thinking of not using kerdiband on the walls (where they meet) and simply continuing to wrap excess kerdi on a 90 degree angle on the wall
(saw this on a youtube video)...the overlap will be about a foot...also saw this on "mongos" keri shower

1. it seems to me that this would mean less "cuts" in the kerdi membrane
....i undertands the membrane is a bit thicker then the kerdiband, and i must
squeeze out as much thinset as possilbe (custom "uncoupling" type)

my question is, for a first time kerdi user, you you think this is something I should consider? ( i have plenty of both membrane and kerdiband)

2. with this method, is it more difficult then just using the band?

3. I plan to use ditra on the floor, should there be any overlap from the kerdi membrane on the shower curb and the ditra (thinking about being waterproof with no cracks from the curb transition and the floor)

4. my floor looks like it's too low.....(i ripped out a motar bed)....need to make up about 3 inches...could you give me some suggestions..for example
subfloor built up and ditra XL (the deflecto scale is calculated ok for both
ceramic and stone allready)...just need some suggestions ..i've allready read the material from schluter on subfloors (proper layout)..

thanks....thought i'd be hanging kerdi this weekend...but everytime i look under the house or in a wall, i see somthing i need to upgrade or fix....
kind of delayed me a bit (like 2 months!)
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:44 AM   #14
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Code issues with Kerdi Off center shower pans

I do not know if you pulled a permit for the job but if you did you might have a difficult time passing a plumbing inspection since the off center shower pans do not comply with either International or Uniform Plumbing codes!
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:48 AM   #15
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Rick~You can certainly "wrap" the Kerdi around the corners. Lotsa ways to skin a cat. As long as the Kerdi is continuous, you're good to go. I've done it like this:

Cut a strip long enough to cover LS, back and RS. Spread the thinset on the left wall and about a foot into the back wall. If you have a helper, he'll hold up the extra Kerdi while you embed the first wall. If you don't, I've used "push-pins" on the back wall to keep the loose Kerdi from pulling down. Just keep working your way around the stall in this manner.

Snap or mark some level lines to align the top of the Kerdi.
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